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Hey everyone, I spilled some water on my g-card and it short circuited (don't ask my how!)
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Now I need a new graphics card and I'm a bit limited on budget, but I'd like to get one that it's currently the best compromise between saving money and good performance.
I've been around searching a bit and I must say prices are much higher than they were a couple years back... what happened?? :bummer:

Can someone more expert than me please help with suggestions on a good compromise g-card which will also work well (or at least better than ok) with 7D2D?

Thanks a bunch to anyone who finds time to help! :steamthumbsup::yay:

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33 minutes ago, Jost Amman said:

Hey everyone, I spilled some water on my g-card and it short circuited (don't ask my how!)
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I like to know how you spilled water on your card but nothing else   😉

 

What is your max budget and what type of cards can your computer support?

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15 minutes ago, BFT2020 said:

I like to know how you spilled water on your card but nothing else   😉

 

What is your max budget and what type of cards can your computer support?

Good question - budget! Another good question would be location, as prices may vary)))

 

But speaking of something budget:

new : 1660 or a 2060 or 3060 whatever your budget can handle

used: anything starting 1060 6Gb, guess in US you can now get a 1080 for a decent price

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Thanks guys!

 

I'm a total newb when it come to hardware, sorry.

When you say 1660, what brand are you talking about? nVidia, AMD or something else?

 

I'm searching probably for a good used g-card.

The one I busted I paid around 160 IIRC, it was a Radeon RX 570 Series - 8GB GDDR5 1268 MHz and it worked pretty well at 1920x1080 resolution.

1 hour ago, BFT2020 said:

I like to know how you spilled water on your card but nothing else   😉

Ok, since you ask... I was done eating some sea salad near while watching a movie at my PC when an unfortunate accident happened!

 

I turned around to remove the plate but I didn't notice there was a bit of water left in the bottom.

So, while I was turning, I passed with the plate (just for a moment) over my tower, which is on the side of the desk.

Well, some of the water spilled out because of the rotation movement and landed exactly on the top heatsink of my tower PC.

Then the water dripped inside the computer and hit my g-card exactly on the side... :frusty:

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1 hour ago, Roland said:

I'm also looking to upgrade but in my case I need the whole thing. I'm looking at this. Tell me why I'm a fool.

It always makes me nervous when they don't say what kind of RAM. Is it DDR 3/4/5? (notice if you go down to the compare with others section every one of the others specifies RAM generation but this does not Find out what it has so you know it's not old DDR3. I'd jump up the extra $20 for the 2TB HDD also. The 4.3 gghz is a bit misleading also, it's actually a 2.9 gghz with a 4.3 turbo max. I've been shopping PC's also and it's driving me crazy trying to find a case that actually has a 5.25 bay for an internal dvd drive.

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14 minutes ago, JCrook1028 said:

It always makes me nervous when they don't say what kind of RAM. Is it DDR 3/4/5? (notice if you go down to the compare with others section every one of the others specifies RAM generation but this does not Find out what it has so you know it's not old DDR3. I'd jump up the extra $20 for the 2TB HDD also. The 4.3 gghz is a bit misleading also, it's actually a 2.9 gghz with a 4.3 turbo max. I've been shopping PC's also and it's driving me crazy trying to find a case that actually has a 5.25 bay for an internal dvd drive.

I noticed the lack of DVD drive but honestly...I haven't used the DVD drive on my current computer in years. I stream all my music and movies and purchase games through Steam or Epic. I stopped using dvds that came packaged with printers and accessories years ago when I noticed that immediately after using the disc to load the drivers it did an online update anyway.... So I started going straight to the websites to download the latest drivers for accessories. For photos we've started scanning in old photos and pay for cloud storage to keep them all as we learned the hard way that photos trapped on old computer hard drives are a pain to extract and transfer at times. It bothered me for a moment but then I couldn't really think of a reason why I would need a DVD drive.

 

I tried figuring out the RAM but I couldn't find the information.

Right now I have a 960 with 4 GB of video Ram, 12 GB of system Ram, and a 1 TB HDD. Even if the 32 RAM is not the latest and greatest I think that by shifting to a 1660 with 6 GB, a SSD, and 32 GB of system RAM it is going to be a nice improvement and the price is within my budget.

 

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5 hours ago, Roland said:

Tell me why I'm a fool.

Again, just like your cursing thread, this seems like a trap

3 hours ago, Roland said:

I noticed the lack of DVD drive but honestly...I haven't used the DVD drive on my current computer in years. I stream all my music and movies and purchase games through Steam or Epic. I stopped using dvds that came packaged with printers and accessories years ago when I noticed that immediately after using the disc to load the drivers it did an online update anyway.... So I started going straight to the websites to download the latest drivers for accessories. For photos we've started scanning in old photos and pay for cloud storage to keep them all as we learned the hard way that photos trapped on old computer hard drives are a pain to extract and transfer at times. It bothered me for a moment but then I couldn't really think of a reason why I would need a DVD drive.

 

I tried figuring out the RAM but I couldn't find the information.

Right now I have a 960 with 4 GB of video Ram, 12 GB of system Ram, and a 1 TB HDD. Even if the 32 RAM is not the latest and greatest I think that by shifting to a 1660 with 6 GB, a SSD, and 32 GB of system RAM it is going to be a nice improvement and the price is within my budget.

 

I got an external DVD drive now.  Worth the extra effort as I have used it for my work laptop and my home computers.

 

Based on my searching, it looks to be DDR 3000

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I have been an AMD guy for years. I recently got a 34" 144hz 3440x1440 monitor and I run 7D2D on max settings at 50-60FPS with my RX 5700 XT. 
Was going to go with a standard aspect ratio, but then I saw this monitor (It's curved and super immersive for gaming) and with this aspect ratio I am getting close to the same number of pixels and I can actually use them, where as 4k is beyond your scope of discernment. This at least fills my field of view. I'd definitely recommend this aspect ratio and a curved monitor for anyone that plays Flight sims or FPS games.

If you are using 1080p res, you can easily get 100FPS out of that card.

I paid $400 for my RX 5700 XT 3 months ago from Newegg

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8 hours ago, Roland said:

I noticed the lack of DVD drive but honestly...I haven't used the DVD drive on my current computer in years. I stream all my music and movies and purchase games through Steam or Epic. I stopped using dvds that came packaged with printers and accessories years ago when I noticed that immediately after using the disc to load the drivers it did an online update anyway.... So I started going straight to the websites to download the latest drivers for accessories. For photos we've started scanning in old photos and pay for cloud storage to keep them all as we learned the hard way that photos trapped on old computer hard drives are a pain to extract and transfer at times. It bothered me for a moment but then I couldn't really think of a reason why I would need a DVD drive.

 

I tried figuring out the RAM but I couldn't find the information.

Right now I have a 960 with 4 GB of video Ram, 12 GB of system Ram, and a 1 TB HDD. Even if the 32 RAM is not the latest and greatest I think that by shifting to a 1660 with 6 GB, a SSD, and 32 GB of system RAM it is going to be a nice improvement and the price is within my budget.

 

Oh yea, I wasn't recommending a dvd drive to you, just relating my personal desire for one in my system.

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3 hours ago, Fox said:

Good luck getting anything good right now. Stores are all empty when it comes to good GPUs. You can thank the scalpers and crypto miners for that.

I'm looking at a custom system thru CyberPower and while there is an extra wait time for the newest drives that delay also comes with a 5% discount off total system price so well worth the extra cpl weeks to me.

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6 hours ago, Ornias said:

I have a 1070Ti and it runs smooth 95% of the time. I imagine they will optimize it more when it goes gold. 

Yeah, I finally decided to wait a few months for (hopefully) prices getting back to normal... I tried looking at Amazon and E-Bay for used stuff, no luck.

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GPU hardly depends on the resolution of your monitor, how many fps you like to have and what detail settings. So your current display is already a factor for choosing a GPU. Or if you plan to buy a new display, both affect each other. Either the display should be chosen according to the gpu, or the other way round. As you named none of that, nobody can give an appropriate recommendation.

 

Depending on this, a 1060 might be good enough. From my point of view it isn't. I currently use a 1070 and i need to go to a mix of mid-to-low settings (most is mid, reflections & co are low) to get stable 60fps in just FullHD.

So with the 1070 i probably need to go to low settings, if i'd not play in FHD but in WQHD and still keep getting 60fps. I wouldn't play it that way, because on low it looks really ugly. And thats (the 1070) is also the reason why i still use just FHD.

 

Also the gpu market is so wide spread in both performance and prices, that without any budget it's even more pointless to recommend a gpu.

But the answer is rather simple. Buy the best cpu that your budget can afford.

If want to spend ~400$, buy a 3060, if you want to spend <600$, take a 3070 or 6800. If you want to spend <800$, take a 3080 or 6800xt. If you want to spend 1000$ or more, buy a 3090/6900xt. (Referring to retail prices, so just adept what the prices in whatver country currently are).

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1 hour ago, Liesel Weppen said:

GPU hardly depends on the resolution of your monitor, how many fps you like to have and what detail settings. So your current display is already a factor for choosing a GPU. Or if you plan to buy a new display, both affect each other. Either the display should be chosen according to the gpu, or the other way round. As you named none of that, nobody can give an appropriate recommendation.

 

18 hours ago, Jost Amman said:

I'm searching probably for a good used g-card.

The one I busted I paid around 160 IIRC, it was a Radeon RX 570 Series - 8GB GDDR5 1268 MHz and it worked pretty well at 1920x1080 resolution.

 

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5 hours ago, Liesel Weppen said:

GPU hardly depends on the resolution of your monitor, how many fps you like to have and what detail settings. So your current display is already a factor for choosing a GPU. Or if you plan to buy a new display, both affect each other. Either the display should be chosen according to the gpu, or the other way round. As you named none of that, nobody can give an appropriate recommendation.

 

Depending on this, a 1060 might be good enough. From my point of view it isn't. I currently use a 1070 and i need to go to a mix of mid-to-low settings (most is mid, reflections & co are low) to get stable 60fps in just FullHD.

So with the 1070 i probably need to go to low settings, if i'd not play in FHD but in WQHD and still keep getting 60fps. I wouldn't play it that way, because on low it looks really ugly. And thats (the 1070) is also the reason why i still use just FHD.

 

Also the gpu market is so wide spread in both performance and prices, that without any budget it's even more pointless to recommend a gpu.

But the answer is rather simple. Buy the best cpu that your budget can afford.

If want to spend ~400$, buy a 3060, if you want to spend <600$, take a 3070 or 6800. If you want to spend <800$, take a 3080 or 6800xt. If you want to spend 1000$ or more, buy a 3090/6900xt. (Referring to retail prices, so just adept what the prices in whatver country currently are).

Seems weird as I could squeeze 1060 3Gb to perform High Preset with Shadows/Reflections off with stable 60fps. and we're talking laptop...

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1 minute ago, Vampirenostra said:

Seems weird as I could squeeze 1060 3Gb to perform High Preset with Shadows/Reflections off with stable 60fps. and we're talking laptop...

Shadows and reflections completely off could probably free enough ressources to keep other settings on high.

And when talking about laptop: Is ist fullHD? Or probably only 1600x900 which would make already a huge difference.

And with just 3GB VRAM only texture quality max should make your gpu suffer (while on my 8GB 1070 texture quality makes almost no difference at all).

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18 hours ago, Fox said:

Good luck getting anything good right now. Stores are all empty when it comes to good GPUs. You can thank the scalpers and crypto miners for that.

Building a new rig as well. I was lucky to snag a new 3090 vidcard from Microcenter but have been waiting a few months to grab a 5900x processor and I refuse to pay scalpers markup to get one. Every week it seems I lose function of a keyboard button on my gaming laptop, I hope that I get that cpu before losing a critical button lol.

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1 hour ago, Star69 said:

and I refuse to pay scalpers markup to get one.

Good! Screw those a-holes. Luckily for you, CPUs are generally easier to get than GPUs. I myself was able to get the 5600x the day it released and have noticed them going back in stock several times since. It never lasts long, but at least they show up once in a while, unlike GPUs which are 100% out of stock permanently unless you buy a pre-built or have the store build for you. I've been on the EVGA website waiting list for I think 2 1/2 months now and haven't gotten notified at all yet. I just don't understand how this is even possible, even with scalpers and crypto miners. It's as if they're only making 1 card per day or something.

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Second hand 980 Ti's used to be sub $100 at one point but all this GPU craziness has put an end to that.  Check Offerup, Craigslist, Ebay.  You'll occasionally get lucky and if you're fast enough; you can snag a really good deal.

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