MonkCrimson 11 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) So last night i was meshing with my chests , to make some room and organize a bit my stuff. I had stacks of 6000 materials like rocks , wood etc. So when i tried to pack a 6000 stack when i did it , it gave me 18000xp , then i started packing all the materials that were able to get packed/stacked or whatever this called and do it over and over and over . . . . pack , unpack , pack , unpack and from 40 level i got into 42 level in 2 minutes . Then i stopped because this was way to silly for me , i think this needs fixing , packing/stacking staff it is something that should not give exp AT ALL . Edited January 25 by MonkCrimson edit mistakes (see edit history) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
KingSlayerGM 149 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Good trick to know, I'll try Link to post Share on other sites
Laz Man 1,352 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 If you can reproduce this reliably let me know. I have tried to reproduce it in the past with no luck. Will try again in the current build. Link to post Share on other sites
MonkCrimson 11 Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, Laz Man said: If you can reproduce this reliably let me know. I have tried to reproduce it in the past with no luck. Will try again in the current build. The exp. given everytime is less but it is going so slow that at the end you are a couple of levels up . PLUS different material starts the whole thing all over again . Link to post Share on other sites
Andros 1 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 wont this greatly affect gamesstage? Link to post Share on other sites
MonkCrimson 11 Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 39 minutes ago, Andros said: wont this greatly affect gamesstage? Dunno , needs fixing. I reported it at the bug section. Link to post Share on other sites
Liesel Weppen 278 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 51 minutes ago, Andros said: wont this greatly affect gamesstage? Since your player level is a relevant factor in gamestage calculation, it does. Like every other source of raising your level. Link to post Share on other sites
Ezed 73 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) I remember finding this in A17 or 18 but I was sure I read they fixed it. Can't find it in release notes though... Edited January 25 by Ezed (see edit history) Link to post Share on other sites
Diragor 30 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 this happenes cause you unpack it and instantly "Farm" a full stack of ore. This gives the high amount of exp. But it get's less over time until you won't get exp anymore from unpack them. I think it's a feature Link to post Share on other sites
uncle.heavy 20 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I was unable to reproduce the issue on both a lvl 69 and a lvl 1 char ( current stable): total amount of xp given was zero after repeatedly packing and unpacking a dozen stacks. Previous topics indicate the effect being real and subject to diminishing returns would reflect the design decisions, though the behavior might be inconsistent among players. I guess I will have to file a complaint for being left out of stack xp 😟 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Treb 9 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Gives great XP for a few time and eventually drops down to no XP. Link to post Share on other sites
MonkCrimson 11 Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 58 minutes ago, Treb said: Gives great XP for a few time and eventually drops down to no XP. Try different material and you are good for another ride. Link to post Share on other sites
Laz Man 1,352 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, MonkCrimson said: Try different material and you are good for another ride. You running any mods? I just tried this in vanilla 19.3 B6 and no xp for packing or unpacking. Edit: Maybe it has something to do with perk selection. Press F9 when your in game next time and it will take a screenshot and also snap your player perk selection. Attach here and I will also use the same perks/skills that you have selected. Edited January 25 by Laz Man (see edit history) Link to post Share on other sites
Mastermind 18 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I might be remembering this wrong, but in 19, I thought it only worked with ore (i.e. not for rocks and wood). Link to post Share on other sites
Axonius 23 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Try with pickax/shovel/ax in hand... Link to post Share on other sites
Laz Man 1,352 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 10 minutes ago, Axonius said: Try with pickax/shovel/ax in hand... Just tried, still nothing. Thanks for the idea though. Link to post Share on other sites
Roland 3,397 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 15 hours ago, MonkCrimson said: packing/stacking staff it is something that should not give exp AT ALL I dunno...since our first year of marriage my wife has asked that I please just lay out my clothes on the bed before we go on a trip and let her pack the suitcases because she believes she can pack stuff so much better than me and that I do it just plain wrong. There might be something to it... or maybe I figured out how to play dumb to get out of packing for trips.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Star69 52 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Works for me too but you need to read one of the miner books to do it, forget which one. It works with iron, lead, coal, nitrate and stones....a stack of 6000 into a stack of one, a max of 5 in a stack which means 15,000 only taking one storage spot. Lots of xp for first one then diminishing returns. For me, I pack the 6000 whatever into 1 block to improve storage in boxes mid game. Seems silly to do it just for xp, my time is better spent killing stuff. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Roland 3,397 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Art of Mining #5 I just tried it and got no xp from crafting the packs. In A17 there were diminishing returns of xp earned for crafting anything but that was later removed. So I'm sure that this was a thing as of A17 and perhaps into A18. Link to post Share on other sites
manni44 12 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) I was playing with my wife on our server and i got XP from crafting those stacks. I did read the book but dunno what skills is had at this time. Server is on 19.3 Edited January 25 by manni44 (see edit history) Link to post Share on other sites
spud42 18 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 jawoodle did this on one of his recent eclipse episodes exp huge at the first but diminished rather quickly. Link to post Share on other sites
MonkCrimson 11 Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 (edited) 12 hours ago, Roland said: Art of Mining #5 I just tried it and got no xp from crafting the packs. In A17 there were diminishing returns of xp earned for crafting anything but that was later removed. So I'm sure that this was a thing as of A17 and perhaps into A18. It's confirmed , i don't know what i have done but yesterday i packed Nitrate for the first time and it gave me 18000xp. Even if it is a book that i read it is still way off balance. OOHH first try it was at the latest stable version and yesterday i moved to 19.4 b3 and i've done it with Nitrate. Edited January 26 by MonkCrimson add content (see edit history) Link to post Share on other sites
canadianbluebeer 99 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 got 19,800, then 9900, 6600 when I tried stone, iron, wood. (didn't have enough for nitrate/coal, will try tonight) was on stable. I'll check and see if I have any of the mining books, forgot to check that. got the xp on the packing, nada on unpacking. Link to post Share on other sites
Star69 52 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 It’s bizarre that some people get the xp and some not. I wonder if there is another trigger besides mining #5? Maybe you have to complete the mining book series or maybe there is an additional perk that you need along with book 5? Just guessing here...... Link to post Share on other sites
Slaasher 17 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 1/25/2021 at 3:09 AM, Laz Man said: If you can reproduce this reliably let me know. I have tried to reproduce it in the past with no luck. Will try again in the current build. I've done it a couple of times in the past but why would you boost your gamestage so far past your levels and skill points? Link to post Share on other sites
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