goatsauce Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Loving this game, but now my only computer (company laptop), someone just decided Steam is a "huge and major security risk" so now it's flagged. Did I just lose my ability to play? Is there any scenario where I can keep playing without Steam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liesel Weppen Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, goatsauce said: Loving this game, but now my only computer (company laptop), someone just decided Steam is a "huge and major security risk" so now it's flagged. Private stuff has not to be used on company hardware. NEVER. Whatever. What happens if you get infected by malware that leaks company stuff, caused by private use? You're absolutely @%$#ed. I guess your work contract didn't include any private use of company hardware? 18 minutes ago, goatsauce said: Did I just lose my ability to play? Is there any scenario where I can keep playing without Steam? 7d2d ist not playable without steam. So if any admin of your company decided to block steam, yes, no more 7d2d. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaasher Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I am unclear how your company "screwed" you over. So many questions: Do you really think it's ok to use their computer however you wish to? What other programs got blocked. Are we hearing the whole picture here? Porn sites? Other games Streaming on illegal sites like Project Free TV?\ This list could go on for quite awhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichii Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/22/2021 at 12:47 PM, goatsauce said: Loving this game, but now my only computer (company laptop), someone just decided Steam is a "huge and major security risk" so now it's flagged. Did I just lose my ability to play? Is there any scenario where I can keep playing without Steam? If you are down to possibly piss off your company and continue playing, its probable if you can manage to install VMware to run a virtual machine with admin privliges and bypass their security by creating your own computer within a computer.... But, I can 100% promise thatll piss off an IT guy somewhere.... And your company laptop might not be able to handle running 2 windows OS at once and youll need to have a ISO file for windows OS. On 1/22/2021 at 12:47 PM, goatsauce said: Loving this game, but now my only computer (company laptop), someone just decided Steam is a "huge and major security risk" so now it's flagged. Did I just lose my ability to play? Is there any scenario where I can keep playing without Steam? lmao, just put in a windows recovery USB and tell the PC bios to boot from USB first. Double check your IT guy security. xD Tho, if this works, id strongly suggest reporting it to your IT dept. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crater Creator Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 I tried launching the game while Steam wasn't open, and I got this result. I'm playing on a Mac, same as the OP, so it's safe to say they should expect the same result. As a practical matter, the only security risk I've ever had from Steam, using it every year for the last fourteen years, is when other people's accounts are hacked and their accounts send me private messages with malicious links. Your mileage may vary, and you probably can't do much about what your company does with the laptops they own... but I consider Steam a low risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liesel Weppen Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, Crater Creator said: but I consider Steam a low risk. If companies block steam or netflix or amazon (no matter if they block an app or block the internet access to them) it's often not a question of risk, but they want to avoid distractions of their employes and/or that they "abuse" company hardware. I don't know where OP comes from, but here in germany you aren't allowed to use company hardware for any private purposes, until your work contract explicitely allowes private use of that. If you do it anyway, that's a reason to become fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crater Creator Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Liesel Weppen said: If companies block steam or netflix or amazon (no matter if they block an app or block the internet access to them) it's often not a question of risk, but they want to avoid distractions of their employes and/or that they "abuse" company hardware. I don't know where OP comes from, but here in germany you aren't allowed to use company hardware for any private purposes, until your work contract explicitely allowes private use of that. If you do it anyway, that's a reason to become fired. I don't disagree, but "huge and major security risk" is what the OP cited as the reason. I took that at face value and was responding to that concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharin Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Steam is a major security risk because it allows you to download unapproved software to your work computer. That's a huge risk from an IT perspective. Anything that can create a conflict with your work software is a problem for IT and for your company. As for playing without Steam, you can as long as you play local solo games offline. But you company may not exactly like you doing that, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crater Creator Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Maharin said: As for playing without Steam, you can as long as you play local solo games offline. How exactly? I got that error message at the main menu when I tried. Is there something you can do to enable the "play offline" button? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamida Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 The one thing I find curious about that Play Offline button being grayed out....it we are not meant to be able to play the game offline...why is there a play offline button in the first place? It is also grayed out for me but iirc, I am sure there was one time steam was off and I could hit that button to play single player game. I think it was quite a while ago that happened though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharin Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 It might be tied to the anti-cheat stuff? Run the launcher and turn off the anti-cheat option to see if it works. There's also an option to disable "GameSparks" but I don't know what that is. EDIT: Tried both and not working on my Linux box. It used to, though, so I'm not sure what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katarynna Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 My internet was out for a couple hours the other night. I was still able to click the button to play offline. I did have to restart steam for the button to turn on though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharin Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 hours ago, katarynna said: I did have to restart steam for the button to turn on though. And that is the crux of the problem, I assume. Without Steam running 7DTD can't open some service it deems essential, even for offline play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katarynna Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 unless i am remembering completely wrong, you can start steam in offline mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharin Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 49 minutes ago, katarynna said: unless i am remembering completely wrong, you can start steam in offline mode. Not if you're not allowed to have it on your computer to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDog1942 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Seriously, no one here realizes this is a “how do I play a hacked copy for free” thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axonius Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 On 1/22/2021 at 3:47 PM, goatsauce said: Loving this game, but now my only computer (company laptop), someone just decided Steam is a "huge and major security risk" so now it's flagged. Did I just lose my ability to play? Is there any scenario where I can keep playing without Steam? Your company issues laptops capable of handling 7D2D?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 22 hours ago, SnowDog1942 said: Seriously, no one here realizes this is a “how do I play a hacked copy for free” thread? Such things don't even occur to those of us with a pure heart... 28 minutes ago, Axonius said: Your company issues laptops capable of handling 7D2D?? Which is why Snowdog most likely has the right of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharin Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Roland said: Such things don't even occur to those of us with a pure heart... Sadly, those with pure hearts won't live to see much of the real apocalypse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampirenostra Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 12:02 AM, Axonius said: Your company issues laptops capable of handling 7D2D?? Yep, my MBP 2018 runs it fine)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crater Creator Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 After mulling it over with moderators, no more discussion of playing without Steam, please. It's too close to discussing piracy, which is against the rules. Officially, you need to be running Steam to play the game, and this is intentional. Now, as far as ways to play that still use Steam... the OP is on a Mac, and Apple provides Boot Camp to run Windows & Mac partitions on the same system. If your company only cares about software installed on the Mac partition (I'm guessing they wouldn't give you a Mac unless your work was done in macOS), you could create a Windows partition with Boot Camp and play the game on that. Advantage: you'd likely experience better performance under Windows anyway. Advantage: you have to reboot between operating systems, which creates a psychological barrier between work and play. Disadvantage: there's no security layer per se between the two partitions, so if Steam led to some malware that indiscriminately corrupts data, it could reach your important work stuff on the Mac partition as well as the Windows partition. Your IT department will likely not be happy with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampirenostra Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Crater Creator said: After mulling it over with moderators, no more discussion of playing without Steam, please. It's too close to discussing piracy, which is against the rules. Officially, you need to be running Steam to play the game, and this is intentional. Now, as far as ways to play that still use Steam... the OP is on a Mac, and Apple provides Boot Camp to run Windows & Mac partitions on the same system. If your company only cares about software installed on the Mac partition (I'm guessing they wouldn't give you a Mac unless your work was done in macOS), you could create a Windows partition with Boot Camp and play the game on that. Advantage: you'd likely experience better performance under Windows anyway. Advantage: you have to reboot between operating systems, which creates a psychological barrier between work and play. Disadvantage: there's no security layer per se between the two partitions, so if Steam led to some malware that indiscriminately corrupts data, it could reach your important work stuff on the Mac partition as well as the Windows partition. Your IT department will likely not be happy with you. For my case it is absolutely forbidden to make bootcamp as it would void the security of Mac per se you have to disable some build in security features to enable booting other OS, if you bootcamp from your internal drive - you have to disable encryption, if you want to bootcamp from external drive - you have to enable booting from external devices and again it is far bigger security issue than just having Steam running in MacOs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cernwn Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 You are going to need to run Steam WITH Administrative access to play. While you could run it as a portable app off a larger flash drive, corporate managed laptops are not known for allowing Admin access to end users. Best bet is to invest in a budget gaming laptop of your own. Personally I just launch Steam on my desktop, with a custom shortcut to minimize its bloatware footprint (replace with YOUR actual drive letter where Steam is installed): "D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe" -no-browser +open steam://open/minigameslist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
push2drop Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Hi, budget gaming laptop - choose any two... ok, in the current time of component scarcity, all options containing budget are out... If the mac in question can still boot from a USB drive (and of course is still intel based - but that's a given it has been running 7d2d until lately), one could try to get a real fast one (SSD with either USB3 or Thunderbolt interface if that's still a thing on mac) and install Ubuntu with UEFI Boot partition on it (like this https://saytosid.github.io/ubuntuUSB/) You can then install steam on Ubuntu and 7d2d with the usual Proton emulation layer. You could of course try the same with Windows 10 but that is known to be quite finicky to actually get installed in a bootable way on an USB drive even on normal PCs, so not sure if it was done for mac (Nota bene, it's not the same as making a Win 10 installer stick and maybe getting that to boot and install on a mac). Joachim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liesel Weppen Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 2/1/2021 at 4:37 PM, push2drop said: If the mac in question can still boot from a USB drive one could try to get a real fast one and install Ubuntu with UEFI Boot partition on it What still does not prohibit access to the hard drives, so e.g. any malware can still read or encrypt them. Can we now close this absolutely pointless thread, that just explains how to circumvent security applied by any employer or even how to use an unlicensed copy? If you want to play games, either ask your employer if you are allowed to do that on company hardware or @%$#ing buy your own computer. It's that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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