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8 hours ago, Eko said:

I agree. It's really off-putting. I'm kind of horrified that its happening, but also don't think there's much that can be done about it at present. 19 stable is out, and a new discussion hasn't been created. Perhaps the devs are run off their feet at the moment and will create a thread when they have more time to listen to our suggestions. Personally, I'm going to hold off any further ideas i get and wait to see for now.

Is there an actual rule list on this type of thread? Community guidelines? Just for future reference. I Don't want to stir the pot, but at the same time I feel that there are a lot of disrespectful comments going on here and its rather unwelcoming. I'm not one to let others walk all over me or be rude for no reason so that's why I'm asking. If it was you who moderated the offensive comment from earlier, thank you for listening. Not much you can really do about these "jokers" though. Just in case any of those said "jokers" read this - what you are doing is pushing people away from giving their opinions, which might have helped the devs. Please just try to remember that some people might feel pushed out due to your behavior.

 

These are the forum rules. In addition there is the Dev Diary, which is considered Madmoles blog where he imposes his own off-topic rules when some discussion is going on and on. Lots of stuff is off-topic in Dev Diary but allowed somewhere else.

 

The "jokers" are probably ok with pushing people away from giving their opinions, when it is different from theirs, so your appeal isn't really working.

 

8 hours ago, Eko said:

As for your response, Roland - I apologize. I now realize that my comment came across as if I were questioning your knowledge and effort in moderating this sub. I more meant to highlight that I have not seen any official rule book for this thread. Mods sometimes have specialty areas and whatnot and I guessed that this thread didn't have any different rules to the rest of the forum in general. Maybe if you wrote a short list of extra rules, specific to this topic? It might cut down on the amount of posts you have to manually moderate. ACTUALLY!! If I cast my mind back to before the release of 19 EXP I think there were a list of rules for posting here, but it got buried and hardly anyone followed the rules anyway?? I believe one of the rules there was not to argue over other people's ideas? Is that list no longer in force? This is my memory, which is shoddy sometimes, so apologies if I got that wrong. Anyway, my idea to cut back on your workload would be a stickied rules section for posting here. It would be awesome if people did actually try to follow the rules. I remember thinking it was nice that the devs wanted to hear ideas without having xyz person jump up and down complaining that it would ruin their experience. (That's what the reacts are supposed to be for, am I right?) Because at the end of the day, all we can do is give our opinion on things that "sometimes makes the game feel better and more fun FOR YOU." See what I did there, lol. This is precisely why we are here... But I misunderstood you earlier. It seems that I can talk about features I've seen in mods, but from the standpoint of them being possibly implemented like any other idea/opinion put forth on here. So... just don't mention you got the idea from a mod, right? Anyway, sorry I was rude, not my intention there. 

PS: I didn't mean MM emotional outbursts lol I just meant maybe he told one or two people off or something. I don't want MM thinking I think he's emotionally unstable.... That's our job as players. We are the ones who get to have meltdowns over xyz minor game change!

 

It was me who said that - and it was about something completely different. Something along the lines of real men something something. I don't want to bring it up because the mods listened (thank you) and removed it, or the poster did (again, thank you). I was just trying to keep discussions civil and not personal attacky. Even if people are joking, it can sometimes feel a bit cliquey, you know? So anyway, this guy had nothing to do with the toxic masculinity comment. 

 

There is no rule to not argue other ideas. If you post here you have to endure that others post their dissent or agreement. If they get personal you can report them and moderators will intervene, but don't expect a friendly welcome by dissenters if you post controversial opinions. Biting sarcasm and irony are not forbidden and the internet is a rough place.

 

The rule to not mention mods isn't about Madmole getting heart attacks whenever someone mentions a mod, it is good practice to not let forum users change the subject. (which is vanilla A19 in the dev diary). That you like a feature or change in some mod better is not a reason for that feature being implemented in vanilla. The only reason to change vanilla is if something isn't working correctly in vanilla. They will look for the solution themselves, because their solution will likely be different (they have other constraints than the mod author). Mention the mod if you like, but TFP will simply not care.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Jost Amman said:

I'm worried about the Microsoft transition because probably the Elder Scrolls will become very bland considering how MS handles game development. Look at what they did with the SoD series, SoD 2 is just more of the same. I was hoping for something more but Microsoft won't "risk" trying new things, if you know what I mean (money first!).

If you're worried about Bethesda considering what Microsoft did to developers like Rare, then yes you have every right to be concerned unfortunately.

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@Roland Quick question. Is this thread's sole purpose to contain purely A19 discussion and all off topic posts will be snipped off and deleted/deposited elsewhere, or will this thread be fairly free reign (within reason) much like the dev diary before it? (Ex. If someone wishes to discuss a fight within the UFC or the MMA and the conversation is naturally limited to a few exchanges, will that post be removed from this thread or will it be kept in.) In other words, what is the plan? Recycle bin or dumpster?

Edit: those posts, not "that post"

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9 minutes ago, Adam the Waster said:

You fool! i have 76 alternate accounts HUMAMAMMAMAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

 

please don't ban me... 

Ah, thats the information I was looking for. Obviously "MechanicalLens" and "meganoth" are two of those alternate accounts and you are just faking this conversation.

 

Oh wait, who am I then? Just a split personality of Adam? Why don't I remember anything about that? Is this the twilight zone? 😉

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, meganoth said:

Ah, thats the information I was looking for. Obviously "MechanicalLens" and "meganoth" are two of those alternate accounts and you are just faking this conversation.

 

Oh wait, who am I then? Just a split personality of Adam? Why don't I remember anything about that? Is this the twilight zone? 😉

 

 

 

 

Adam, are you talking to yourself again?

In all reality though, we are all figments of Roland's imagination. Years of monitoring these forums have slowly got to him, turning him senile. 😂

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12 minutes ago, MechanicalLens said:

Adam, are you talking to yourself again?

In all reality though, we are all figments of Roland's imagination. Years of monitoring these forums have slowly got to him, turning him senile. 😂

im always talking to myself..

 

 

Its ok adam! they will add one idea, they have too! THEY NEED TOO! WHOS YELLING! you need to stop it! 

NOW! i need ONE IDEA THEY NEED TO ADD, UNFROZEN LUMBERJACK! But its their game they can Add whatever they Wa-

THEY STILL HAVE TIME TOO ADD ONE! YOU Know IT! But! But!

 

STOP YELLING THEY WILL READ THIS! No they won't!

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On 9/16/2020 at 2:07 PM, zWolfer said:

@madmole yes, this is a criticism... Who is the guy who design the zombies? Why is it that all we have are mostly white zombies, strong males, weak and/or sexualized females.. There are a lot of zombies but only the screamer is "correct" and theres's one asian and the hungry female.. I mean, come on, I know its a game but let do this in a good way....

SOY ALERT!

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On 9/12/2020 at 8:36 PM, Promethean Winchester said:

Why don't the devs use Nitrogen or Compopack in the base game? The general consensus is that they blow the vanilla game out of the water. The vanilla game could measure up if they incorporated certain fan-made POI's and Nitrogen's world generation into the main game. Then every second building wouldn't be "burned buildings 1-10", or "crumbling building 1-10".

Compopack has POI's with SERIOUS FPS killers in it...... I use it but had to lower settings pretty dramatically to do so. When I started the world with my vanilla settings it didn't end well. Crashed as a matter of fact. I have it on video even. it was really really bad.

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1 hour ago, Shumi said:

Hi SnowDog, it is great to meet you :)

Oh its great to meet you too.  From what you said it sounds like we have something in common,  maybe there are more things we have in common ;)

1 hour ago, Roland said:

Oh boy...encouraging AND has an androgynous avatar. Pure SnowDog bait.

Shush, im puttin the moves on.

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