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41 minutes ago, th3s0n1c said:

I support this.

The new stripper is nice, dont get me wrong, but it kinda looks like just a girl coming out of a club in the morning.

That was the intent. The stripper was too specific. Same for the football player and cheerleader. That's why those are being eliminated. Party Girl/Mechanic are more generic models and make sense being in more POI's.

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9 hours ago, th3s0n1c said:

I support this.

The new stripper is nice, dont get me wrong, but it kinda looks like just a girl coming out of a club in the morning.

I'm sure there will be some modlet one can use to re-enable them, as the building blocks for these characters are, presumably, still there for time being. 

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11 hours ago, JCrook1028 said:

That was the intent. The stripper was too specific. Same for the football player and cheerleader. That's why those are being eliminated. Party Girl/Mechanic are more generic models and make sense being in more POI's.

I also think TFP did that to please the YouTubers, as many of them have to edit the strippers out from their videos in fear of getting demonitized... Let's face it, Let's Play videos are the best free advertisements for the game, TFP would want to please them to get them playing more.

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I really doubt the decision to replace the stripper with the party girl had anything to do with youtube. They said the stripper, the football player, and the cheerleader did not fit naturally into many poi's. If it had to do with youtube, why also get rid of the football player and the cheerleader?

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12 hours ago, JCrook1028 said:

That was the intent. The stripper was too specific. Same for the football player and cheerleader. That's why those are being eliminated. Party Girl/Mechanic are more generic models and make sense being in more POI's.

I agree with this. If the Pimps wanna have Zs that are more related to the context of the game's setting, footballers and cheerleaders should go away. On the other hand we do need more variety in Z appearances, but more contextualized.

 

We should have more than one healthcare worker zombie and the stereotyped nurse from the fifties should go. There should be hospital zombies in scrubs, some with PPE (ER staff, intensivists), patients with the typical green/blue gown, paramedics (btw why isnt there any ambulances in the game??). Hazmat Zs are good. Soldiers are good, but we could also have one identified as combat medics. More law enforcement Zs shoulde be added beside the acid-spitting fatty. Security guards. Firefighters. Most of the people working in emergency services and public safety should be represented. The rest of the zombie population would be made of common people with widely diversified clothing style. Oh and also of various ethnical origins. Not because im being an offended SJW but simply because US population is diversified as such.

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I really doubt the decision to replace the stripper with the party girl had anything to do with youtube. They said the stripper, the football player, and the cheerleader did not fit naturally into many poi's. If it had to do with youtube, why also get rid of the football player and the cheerleader?

 

There is a good argument there. But they still have other "specialised" zombies in the game (e.g. solders, nurses, bikers), whom IMO don't really fit "naturally" in many POIs either. All I'm saying is if I can accept 3 cops hiding in various closets inside a residential house, I can live with football players and cheerleaders appear in random POIs...

 

On a side note, maybe it's just in my game, but I often found the old strippers are paired with the bikers (even in the "un-natural" POIs). To me it's a nice touch. I wonder who are they going to pair with the new strippers/party girls now?

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1 minute ago, Jakmeister999 said:

There is an argument there. But they still have other "specialised" zombies in the game (e.g. solders, nurses, bikers), whom IMO don't really fit "naturally" in many POIs either. All I'm saying is if I can accept 3 cops hiding in various closets inside a residential house, I can live with football players and cheerleaders appear in random POIs...

 

On a side note, maybe it's just in my game, but I often found the old strippers are paired with the bikers (even in the "un-natural" POIs). To me it's a nice touch. I wonder who are they going to pair with the new strippers/party girls now?

Perfectly said. Bottom line is more variety the better. It doesn't have to "make sense", it's a video game with zombies. 

As far as certain model types not naturally being in certain POI's, zombies to tend to migrate or wonder around.

The stripper just happened to wonder into the basement of my house.....er I mean a random basement 😁

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1 hour ago, Outlaw_187 said:

Perfectly said. Bottom line is more variety the better. It doesn't have to "make sense", it's a video game with zombies.

Yeah but there's a context to the game and its also not Dead Rising nor Dead Island... Hell even in Dead Island, with its silliness,  you have contextualized zombies : people on vacation wearing swimsuits. Not Inuits or 19th century geishas 🙄 It still has to make sense, yes.

 

In 7DtD, there's a context, there's been a nuclear holocaust. Hence why we have radiated zombies and others with hazmat suits, for instance, and not dancing llamas wearing sombreros and singing German drinking songs. But according to this weak argument, it should be ok because nothing is supposed to make sense, right?

 

I can also live with soldiers hiding in a closed from time to time. Zombies do wander around a lot. But even for those, they're usually found on military bases and camps. See, context. I wonder what was the idea behind a footballer that charges when he spots you when any Feral zombie does exactly the same. Ok for variety but this looks redundant to me. Cheerleaders, i dont mind finding them sometimes. There's high schools among the POIs after all.

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13 hours ago, JCrook1028 said:

That was the intent. The stripper was too specific. Same for the football player and cheerleader. That's why those are being eliminated. Party Girl/Mechanic are more generic models and make sense being in more POI's.

I agree but its still odd too see Nurses and cheer leaders inside of homes and business!

 

hell i raided a Home and i counted how many nurses i found (5) Why so many in one house? If anything those nurses in homes could be replaced with The party girl, Farmer and mechanic. Hell i find more Mechanics then Party girls!  

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They removing the Cheerleader zombie? Noooo! I was hoping to see her new design. She's like a classic!!

 

And I wouldn't mind having a new version for the stripper zombie, besides the new party zombie girl.

 

More zombies design are always welcome. I would love to see office ladies too, and more variety in the office zombie too.

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59 minutes ago, Kyonshi said:

dancing llamas wearing sombreros and singing German drinking songs

Am I the only one who would like that? lol

No, seriously.. it would be nice having something like the witch from L4D2 (and no, the screamer is not the same thing)

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51 minutes ago, th3s0n1c said:

Am I the only one who would like that? lol

No, seriously.. it would be nice having something like the witch from L4D2 (and no, the screamer is not the same thing)

Haha, i was expecting something someone to say that! 😆

 

If you're talking about the L4D Witch, then it would be something behavioral rather than about appearance. But i dunno if a zombie that can one-shot kill you would be unanimous? It would quite thrilling as far as im concerned, but a bit overkill (no pun intended). I could enjoy a zombie that has this particular behavior – rabid killing machine that targets the person who triggers it – but a feral Wraith kinda fills the role, doesnt it?

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AFAIK, all non HD zeds will be replaced or removed.  They also want consistent quality across the board so the chances of them leaving old models in the game files is unlikely.  It will be up to the modders to export and readd old models in.

 

The community has a nice NPC creatures pack mod that has the variety alot of you folks are looking for.  Head over to the mods forums to check it out.

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5 hours ago, Jakmeister999 said:

But they still have other "specialised" zombies in the game (e.g. solders, nurses, bikers), whom IMO don't really fit "naturally" in many POIs either.

Soldiers were everywhere when the infection raged. Nurses and bikers are very commonly seen irl wearing their uniform/distinctive clothing. When is the last time you saw someone in a football uniform wandering the streets? How many cheerleaders have you ever seen other than in a school or at a sporting event? Devs have said multiple times this was their reasoning for removing those archetypes and the nurse is getting redone so as to not be the sexy nurse halloween costume type of uniform. I expect she will be in scrubs instead when her HD model comes out.

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9 minutes ago, Roland said:

All old models will either replaced or removed. The old models just won't look good next to the new ones. So there won't be any keeping of the old stripper.

Some of the places I go have old strippers -- usually the showbar type establishments.. not the actual gentlemans clubs.  Some of them are good looking despite their age.  They also seem eager to please ;)

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7 hours ago, Jakmeister999 said:

I also think TFP did that to please the YouTubers, as many of them have to edit the strippers out from their videos in fear of getting demonitized... Let's face it, Let's Play videos are the best free advertisements for the game, TFP would want to please them to get them playing more.

Call themselves, "Pimps".  Censors the game.  

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6 hours ago, Kyonshi said:

Haha, i was expecting something someone to say that! 😆

 

If you're talking about the L4D Witch, then it would be something behavioral rather than about appearance. But i dunno if a zombie that can one-shot kill you would be unanimous? It would quite thrilling as far as im concerned, but a bit overkill (no pun intended). I could enjoy a zombie that has this particular behavior – rabid killing machine that targets the person who triggers it – but a feral Wraith kinda fills the role, doesnt it?

I was thinking more along the lines of a zombie that just stands there chanting (but in a crucial path inside POIs) and if triggered, would scream to spawn a horde on you. OR at least wake up all the zombies in the area and have them target you.

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45 minutes ago, Adam the Waster said:

I WOULD LIKE TO FIND THE BLOODY PARTY GIRL!

 

 

i went through 2 bloodmoons and i have not found ONE!

 

i only found one just roaming around in the wild! why?

Why, isnt it obvious? Because the party never stops! It's the after party after the after party

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