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Well its finally here:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/30-series/?ncid=em-anno-83921&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWXpreU9HTTJNMkkzTWpsaSIsInQiOiJnTXNpd0ZZRWo5czZ6dnNMOVBiZGd3SXFmZ2M3MEtqS1JtcVlCUHFmRXBKNUN2aVVJWDBvRTJ4WFFNTlRkTnZKZGI3QjV4TWkzWmw2Rzk1SjhtblNsSUJCMmNQa1doY1RGeVFHWlAzVUNpRnExZ3I0Mlg1SU11dFhQdk9Pb0xzdyJ9#cid=_em-anno_en-us

 

Unless I win the lottery its out of the question otherwise I would have loved to pair a GTX 3080 with my i7 9700k. Maybe the 30 series will be what the 20 series could have been.

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12 minutes ago, bobrpggamer said:

Definitely getting a 3080,  i still have the gtx1080 since i was not impressed with the 2000 series.  

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33 minutes ago, SnowDog1942 said:

Definitely getting a 3080,  i still have the gtx1080 since i was not impressed with the 2000 series.  

I also have the GTX 1080, and I would love to get even the 3070. I have always been a buy a new video card every couple of years guy since the TNT II.

 

PC gaming has been about the video card since the Voodoo and Voodoo II. Its always been an expense that PC gamers have been willing to pay, so the video card companies have been capitalizing on this by adding the latest greatest video card that costs the same as a top of the line gaming console.

 

Diamond stealth S3 Savage

3DFX Voodoo 5 5500 AGP (could not get it to work)

Nvidia TNT II

Geforce 256

Geforce II

Geforce 4 4200Ti

Geforce 6800 GT

Geforce 8800 GTS

Geforce GTX 260

Geforce GTX 690

Geforce GTX 1080

 

Broke, so I am stuck with my GTX1080.

 

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2 minutes ago, bobrpggamer said:

I also have the GTX 1080, and I would live to get even the 3070.

Save up some money.  Cut out things u buy on a daily basis like coffee or desert.  Set it aside specifically for a card fund.  It may take time but you will be thrilled when u finally get it.  Do it :)

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17 minutes ago, SnowDog1942 said:

Save up some money.  Cut out things u buy on a daily basis like coffee or desert.  Set it aside specifically for a card fund.  It may take time but you will be thrilled when u finally get it.  Do it :)

Not the coffee and desert! I have homeowners, property taxes and DMV registration coming up, I do not have the money for that right now.

 

That is truly a good idea though I could put a little aside I suppose, but by the time I saved enough the other expenses would be due again. One good thing is that this will give me time to make sure the GTX 30 series is worth the upgrade.

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I just found this when looking up the Voodoo5 5500 that I could not get to work in my PCI slot back in 1999.

I have a bit of a time wondering who came up with this, someone has an interesting sense of humor, only a PC gamer would get a kick out of it.

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I just bought this:  https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861?Item=N82E16820232861

 

and this:  https://www.newegg.ca/asus-rog-strix-b550-f-gaming/p/N82E16813119312?Item=N82E16813119312

 

in preparation for the new Ryzen and RTX lineup. I plan on getting the RTX 3080 as well as Ryzen 4060 or better depending on prices. They will be replacing my Ryzen 1600x and GTX 1060 FTW+ (and 16GB of ram, Asus B350 Plus motherboard). That older system will then be moved on to be my new game hosting server replacing my crappy but seemingly good enough FX 8320 based server, lol. The FX 8320 will then be passed on to my parents. I love recycling. :p

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8 minutes ago, Fox said:

I just bought this:  https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861?Item=N82E16820232861

 

and this:  https://www.newegg.ca/asus-rog-strix-b550-f-gaming/p/N82E16813119312?Item=N82E16813119312

 

in preparation for the new Ryzen and RTX lineup. I plan on getting the RTX 3080 as well as Ryzen 4060 or better depending on prices. They will be replacing my Ryzen 1600x and GTX 1060 FTW+ (and 16GB of ram, Asus B350 Plus motherboard). That older system will then be moved on to be my new game hosting server replacing my crappy but seemingly good enough FX 8320 based server, lol. The FX 8320 will then be passed on to my parents. I love recycling. :p

I had no idea AMD made another FX possessor, I had the AMD FX 4000 for a while before I went with the AMD 4200 X2. I still have my FX 4000 in my computer toolbox, I think it the only CPU I ever saved and I do not know why.

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2 hours ago, bobrpggamer said:

I just found this when looking up the Voodoo5 5500 that I could not get to work in my PCI slot back in 1999.

I have a bit of a time wondering who came up with this, someone has an interesting sense of humor, only a PC gamer would get a kick out of it.

That Voodoo 5 was hilarious. In the video when he turned it on, I laughed so hard when the fans spun up.... and then he ran Crysis, because of course he did, lol.

2 minutes ago, bobrpggamer said:

I had no idea AMD made another FX possessor, I had the AMD FX 4000 for a while before I went with the AMD 4200 X2. I still have my FX 4000 in my computer toolbox, I think it the only CPU I ever saved and I do not know why.

The FX 8320 is about 8 years old. There's a few others that are even "better". Of course I say that loosely.

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The CPU I have is the 4000+ for the 939 motherboards, the original FX series was the Athlon 64 FX. This was when AMD was a good idea for gaming until the Core 2 came out. I guess now AMD is getting better but I still like Intel for gaming, if I wanted a workstation or server I would think threadripper rather than Xeon.

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6 hours ago, bobrpggamer said:

The CPU I have is the 4000+ for the 939 motherboards, the original FX series was the Athlon 64 FX. This was when AMD was a good idea for gaming until the Core 2 came out. I guess now AMD is getting better but I still like Intel for gaming, if I wanted a workstation or server I would think threadripper rather than Xeon.

You do know that AMD is expected to officially be better at per core performance with this new lineup (already is compared with most of them) and Intel still to this day has nothing left to offer aside from even heavier overclocks which I think at this point they reached their limit on that, at least until 2022, and even then no one is expecting them to catch up for at least a year or two after that.

 

Also, isn't the Core 2 Duo the one where they faked the benchmarks to make AMD look worse? There was even a lawsuit where they lost and had to pay their customers a small partial refund for their false performance. EDIT: Maybe that was a different one cuz I can't find a source anymore.

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Those GPU´s look sweet. Can´t wait for the benchmarks. But even if they exxagerated, they should still be pretty impressive. Still not gonna get one, i have a FHD monitor and a GTX1070. Unless someone gifts me a decent WQHD monitor there is no reason to upgrade for me.

 

The price is what surprised me the most. Just hoping that they give the 3060 8GB of RAM this time.

 

@bobrpggamer Intel may still has a small advantage in gaming. But that costs you more and if you ever deceide to do anything else than gaming you are better of with AMD.

 

Also Intel capping the RAM speed on no all non Z490 motherboards is basically taking a crap on their customers tbh.

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On 9/3/2020 at 8:17 AM, pApA^LeGBa said:

Those GPU´s look sweet. Can´t wait for the benchmarks. But even if they exxagerated, they should still be pretty impressive.

Of course they exaggerated, it's what they do. But ya, it's still going to be a nice leap forward and the best part is running ray tracing won't be such a thin line with fps anymore. The price surprised me quite a bit too, though it's still very expensive due to lack of competition.

 

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Pff... 2080...3080... there are still people here playing 7d2d on a microwave oven or lg fridge))) Still have my old desktop with Phenom X4 9950 and GTX 560, but it just stands there in the most obscure corner of my room, and play on a MacBook pro 2018 with i7 and a Radeon Pro X555... Potato masher and a frying pan all in one... While im typing this message the CPU die temp is 63 C... Idling...

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5 hours ago, bobrpggamer said:

Well If I was to upgrade to RTX from my GTX 1080, what would be best matched with a i7 9700k, 3070, 3080 or 3090?

You can still benefit from all 3 without bottleneck, though the 3090 is considered to be the new Titan card... waste of money in my opinion. 3070 is the new 2080ti.

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I upgraded from the 1070 to the RTX 2070 Super OC. That will be gifted to my son as I will bump up to the 3070 most likely. I'm considering the extra $200 to push to the 3080 but I'm not convinced yet. I'll wait for actual reviews to come out. There is also a mystery card from NVidia that I've heard some substantial rumors about. I assume it will be a 3060.

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Lol!  I'm trying to get the RTX 3080 like everyone else and Newegg.ca keeps crashing from too much traffic.

 

And now all 12 skews of the card (and all 3090 skews as well) are out of stock before they even became in stock. I really hate bots. You would think stores would have ways of preventing those from working.

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On 9/15/2020 at 10:09 AM, Fox said:

though the 3090 is considered to be the new Titan card...

I heard there will be a RTX 3000 Titan anyway. The GA102 chip on the 3090 is still not the full configuration. There are still 20 shader modules left.

 

I'm still waiting for the AMD cards release. If they can compete to the 3080, i'll probably take the AMD card, if not i'll buy a 3080.

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2 minutes ago, Liesel Weppen said:

I heard there will be a RTX 3000 Titan anyway. The GA102 chip on the 3090 is still not the full configuration. There are still 20 shader modules left.

 

I'm still waiting for the AMD cards release. If they can compete to the 3080, i'll probably take the AMD card, if not i'll buy a 3080.

Even if AMD could compete with the 3080, you'll almost guaranteed hate the drivers / software for at least a year after release, because AMD always fails in the software / drivers department. At least with Nvidia, you get what you paid for.

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6 minutes ago, Fox said:

Even if AMD could compete with the 3080, you'll almost guaranteed hate the drivers / software for at least a year after release, because AMD always fails in the software / drivers department. At least with Nvidia, you get what you paid for.

They didn't always fail with the drivers, but they did with the 5700xt series, that's true. I'll wait for real world tests anyway, then i will see if the drivers work.

I want a new monitor (replacing FHD with UWQHD) and i don't want to lock in into NVidia with G-Sync, but it's horrible to find out what Adpative Sync monitors work as g-sync-comaptible. At least this problem would be solved entirely with AMD FreeSync.

Also i hope that the equivalent AMD card comes with 12-16GB VRAM. Imho the 10GB of the 3080 are not a huge problem (now), but also not really future proof.

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I have yet to see a game that uses more than 4GB of vram on a 1080p resolution, so I'm quite fine with a 10GB card for several years. Besides, like the tech channels pointed out, what we see while gaming is just vram queued up and ready to be used, it doesn't mean that much is being used in that moment. So like a game that might queue up 4GB of vram on a 6GB card would probably still have the exact same performance benefit as a card limited to something like 3GB of total vram available. And 10GB is quite a lot... unless you want 4k resolutions, in which case, it might crowd the limit within a few years.

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Of course it is queued up, because if it is not there when it's needed fps will drop significantly. And yes, for FHD 10GB is fine. But for only FHD a 3080 is overkill anyway.

And i want to go for higher resolution, as i said. Not yet UHD, but lets see what the future brings. UWHD is already ~60% of UHD and still 2,5 times the pixels of FHD.

And i plan to use my graphics cards for several years, i don't upgrade with every new generation.

 

I'm fine if you buy yourself a 3080 asap. Obviously i have slightly different priorities and can wait until AMD shows what they have. If they can't compete, i can still buy a 3080.

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It isn't overkill for me because Minecraft practically demands it, and I'm sure in a year or two from now, other games will require it in order to reach max quality as well. And at the speeds the vram is working at, I doubt it would impact the fps much (if at all) to swap data for queuing, not unless the game requires a lot more than 10GB.

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