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Thanks for the feedback Tengu,

 

We are actively looking at making all vehicles fit in more over the course of the next updates .... adding new vehicles and re texturing some with a rustic look .

 

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As for the looting of vehicles that is still completely 'vanilla' so follows the Fun Pimps amounts in everyway , no alterations were made to that side of loot apart from adding extra loot container for Ambulance and Miltary / Police loot,  will look at vanilla loot in vehicles regarding ammo amounts , yeah sure you may find some but vanilla is always OTT on ammo.

 

Spawning was something we need feedback on and so far had some useful feedback on amounts of vehicles spawning ..... thanks for yours :)

 

Scale of vehicles is being reviewed and always difficult to get right lol ...  Unity sets the size of the gameobject , you can alter scale in XML but there are consequences ..... the player size on exit is affected ... and strange things happen lol ... below is a mini Chevy ...on exit player arms changed size .

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Ragsy n Tiger !!

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On 10/12/2020 at 9:15 PM, Ragsy 2145 said:

 

The UI icons are in the mod in UIAtlas but the xml for nav objects is not ... we feel it spoils emmersion when vehicles spawn thats the reason the xml is not included.

 

If you really really really want them to show up then place the attached nav_objects.xml into the mods config folder ...... then go into entityclasses.xml and uncomment the bottom line on each vehicle entity by removing the <--- and --> from the line statement

 

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or remember where you parked :) ...

 

 

Regards

Ragsy!!

I will try it out when I get back home from work. 

It could take me ages to find the right line and file to make it works.

Thank you so much for hint and prompt response! Much appreciate it :)

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Hi! thanks for your work, i like this mod.

 

But it is impossible for me to find "vanilla engines". I only have found 1 after looking at almost 100 cars.

 

My favorite vehicle is the quad!

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7 hours ago, raxell said:

Hi! thanks for your work, i like this mod.

 

But it is impossible for me to find "vanilla engines". I only have found 1 after looking at almost 100 cars.

 

My favorite vehicle is the quad!

Because this is how it should be, if you need an engine for something else, then you can make a conversion recipe. It's so hard to be an independent person...

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4 hours ago, CrazyAluminum said:

Because this is how it should be, if you need an engine for something else, then you can make a conversion recipe. It's so hard to be an independent person...

"Conversion recipe"? What does it mean?

How can i get "vanilla engines" to craft cement mixer, electricity,...?

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2 hours ago, raxell said:

"Conversion recipe"? What does it mean?

How can i get "vanilla engines" to craft cement mixer, electricity,...?

Recipe, when you make vanilla engines from modded engines

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11 minutes ago, CrazyAluminum said:

Recipe, when you make vanilla engines from modded engines

Aaaah i didn't know that recipe. Thanks!!

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13 minutes ago, raxell said:

Aaaah i didn't know that recipe. Thanks!!

I mean that you need to create that recipe in recipes.xml in the mod folder.

 

Replace original recipes.xml in the mod folder with this recipes.xml

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19 minutes ago, CrazyAluminum said:

I mean that you need to create that recipe in recipes.xml in the mod folder

Aaah ok ok. That means with this mod i not going to find vanilla engines without editing XML?. I am new with this.

 

My feedback about VM. I love this mod, great work, congrat guys!! Thanksss a lot!!

1- Scarcity of vanilla engines ;D

2- Too many working vehicle spawns. I have 6 vehicles in my base. I don't need to craft any and it is difficult to break one. I would do: more damage and less working vehicle spawns

 

 

We have the loggin bug where some vehicles appears bouncing and not in the exact same position. We are not in debbug mode. I have noticed, always occurs in the same vehicle (old white car, between the red one and the purple one in your main picture)

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I've been playing the mod for about an in game month (a few blood moons in for sure) and thought I could give some feedback. I've read through the thread and see some things have been said already but I am gonna go through it all anyways.

First off thanks for the mod. It is sweet. The depth alone is worth it but to be able to salvage parts and build a variety of vehicles is just amazing. This is certainly going to be a standard on most of my games.

That brings me to probably the biggest issue I've been having and it's a simple balancing issue. With the addition of so many new parts you haven't adjusted the storage capacity accordingly. A stock motorcycle has a significant amount more storage than vehicles I can make through the mod. When you factor in (and I'm guessing here) say 10 new parts we need to collect but give us vehicles with less storage space than normal you can see where it causes a bottleneck. I've also noticed gas isn't as plentiful (or maybe I'm just unlucky) yet we are required to make more trips because of the limited space. All these things play off of one another and in my humble opinion just need a little tweaking. I tried to do it myself but I've not modded much so now I'm complaining to you. :D

Another sort of bottle neck I noticed was the Auto Workbench. In order to craft it Unless I'm mistaken I have to get lucky enough to find 3 parts that can't be crafted? I have to build a workbench to be able to craft the auto workbench. That costs 1 hammer (random find early game), 25 forged iron, 20 mechanical parts, 1 wrench (random find early game), 50 wood. Once we have the workbench we build the auto workbench costing 1 hammer (random find early game), 1 ratchet set (random find), 1 compressor tool (random find), the workbench we just built, and a car lift. The car lift costs 5 mechanical parts, 5 electrical parts, 1 compressor tool (random find), 50 forged iron, and 20 forged steel.

Whew, I hope I got all that right. It seems like there are so many gates to getting to a car, some being reliant on rng that it's overly tedious and very costly. In all honesty (and shame) I ended up spawning in the compressors cause I just couldn't find them even though I have 2 storage boxes full of car parts and everything else.

On the positive side I thought I would experience a significant performance hit but that didn't happen. Seems to run about the same as vanilla.

I can't wait to see where you guys take this. I haven't even added bdubs vehicles yet (was thrilled to see they are compatible and I hope you guys can make them like the others, assembly required) so I still have many hours to get out of your hard work and I sincerely thank you guys for it.

I will keep playing and keep gathering feedback...like the slow seeming vehicles so till next time, stay saucy!

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I'm not sure what the guys have in the plans for future development so I'm just spitballing here...

 

Just going by the original vision, the gas shortage and difficulty to build were an intentional balance to the amount of cars you could find... The idea was, yes there's a lot of cars, but repairing and gassing them was the balance/challenge.

 

Now, the issue is, vanilla.  Removing the (easier) vanilla vehicle system as well as disallowing other vehicle packs *should* make it a bit more balanced, but each player decides that. 

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35 minutes ago, Guppycur said:

Just going by the original vision, the gas shortage and difficulty to build were an intentional balance to the amount of cars you could find... The idea was, yes there's a lot of cars, but repairing and gassing them was the balance/challenge.

I can see that and I am all for making the game harder. While I have been struggling for gas in my game (ive disassembled all the cars in my area) I can see that once that runs out I am going to be in trouble. It's just so many trips to get to places and back with such little storage. Add in what seems like slower vehicles and your drive time is also increased which uses more gas. I'll have to play a bit longer to really see how it goes. That is just my opinion though, I'll play the mod regardless.

 

I guess my bigger issue is the amount of materials to make a bench that requires so many rng blessings. These things all tie in together though so I listed them all. It seems like it needs a once over on the balancing but again, just humble opinions. I've come to realize lately without modders I wouldn't be playing much anymore and the best way to give back to them is to test their creations and give feedback.

 

Side note: love the buggy you made Guppycur. That thing really adds some bad assness to the game.

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Yeh balance is a @%$# and unfortunately one of those things that you can't please everyone; I'd agree some balance probably needs to be made for those mats, though.  Rags?  Tig? 

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unable to use this mod :( its not compatible with the server tools !
i drop a car out of my bag and place it on the street, filled it up with gas and enter it i get banned from my server for 50 years !

i tried it with 4 different vehicles and got banned every time :(

iam playing V19.2 (B4) on a private server - EAC is of ! Mod is installed on server and client.

output.log entry
"2020-10-26T09:46:07 245.971 INF [SERVERTOOLS] Detected erroneous data NetPackageEntityStatsBuff uploaded by steam id xxxx, owner id xxxx, entity id xxx name Shemasheko. Attempted modifying their entity id to 4120
2020-10-26T09:46:07 245.973 INF Executing command 'ban add -xxxx- 50 years ""'
2020-10-26T09:46:07 245.977 INF Kicking player (Banned until: 2070-10-26 09:46:07): EntityID=171, PlayerID='-xxxx-', OwnerID='-xxxx-', PlayerName='Shemasheko' NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at ServerTools.Packages.Ban (ClientInfo _cInfo) [0x00071] in <ecdea0e560bd4bb6b22e56a1311e4835>:0 
  at ServerTools.PackageEntityStatsBuff.PackageEntityStatsBuff_ProcessPackage_Prefix (NetPackageEntityStatsBuff __instance, World _world) [0x00093] in <ecdea0e560bd4bb6b22e56a1311e4835>:0 
  at (wrapper dynamic-method) NetPackageEntityStatsBuff.NetPackageEntityStatsBuff.ProcessPackage_Patch1(NetPackageEntityStatsBuff,World,INetConnectionCallbacks)
  at ConnectionManager.ProcessPackages (INetConnection _connection, NetPackageDirection _disallowedDirection) [0x000b2] in <2a506ca37a4c4916bbc3a64b89a45697>:0 
  at ConnectionManager.Update () [0x00053] in <2a506ca37a4c4916bbc3a64b89a45697>:0 
 
(Filename: <ecdea0e560bd4bb6b22e56a1311e4835> Line: 0)"

 

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Stop! 
iam unable to edit the first post so i write it here:
there is a problem in the server tools ! you'll be kicked if you use admin commands even when you are set as admin in the serveradmin.xml.
the servertools got an update this morning so i think there is something wrong with this brand new update.

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