"Amazing" (@%$*#!y) rewards for T5 quests.

[SenpaiThatIngnoresYou 20]

6 minutes ago, Biscoitoso said:

For that problem I just mine. 1000 Ooil Shale = 10000 Gas. But it is ok scraping cars.

Another problem about missions: once you unlock missions level 5, missions of low level become less optional. For example, the trader near me have now 4 missions level 5 and just one level 3. And sometimes I want do low level missions for stuff like ammo, books, recipes or just because I dont have enough ammo to do a level 5 mission.

It's not the gas i am after, it's mechanical parts and oil. I need another chem station, i have like 200 minutes worth of gunpowder cooking in my current one, and i only run it when i am at home. that would speed up my oil production. Granted, once you run a bulk amount, you never have to run it again.  but i also need engines for generators. I have a hamburger bunker surrounded by blade traps. as a horde base. Most of horde night is just siting comfy passively gathering xp from the meat grinding. occasionally i need to shoot something. My next horde base design will be a similar bunker in the middle, but with a ceiling AND floor blade traps. 

[Biscoitoso 78]

1 minute ago, SenpaiThatIngnoresYou said:

It's not the gas i am after, it's mechanical parts and oil. I need another chem station, i have like 200 minutes worth of gunpowder cooking in my current one, and i only run it when i am at home. that would speed up my oil production. Granted, once you run a bulk amount, you never have to run it again.  but i also need engines for generators. I have a hamburger bunker surrounded by blade traps. as a horde base. Most of horde night is just siting comfy passively gathering xp from the meat grinding. occasionally i need to shoot something. My next horde base design will be a similar bunker in the middle, but with a ceiling AND floor blade traps. 

I see, can you show your base to me and creat new topic at proper forum section? Do it please (and quote me).

[SenpaiThatIngnoresYou 20]

It's this one. 

 

Instead of the iron spike traps, it's a field of steel with blade traps above it. The caveat is that under the field of steel, is an underground section that houses the generators for the blade traps. The blade traps are placed atop an arrow slit, so that i can maintain them from underground. Very useful as i can repair them while they run, and every solid block on top gets a plate under neath it, so it is technically two steel blocks thick. I put a punch turret on top, to deal with vultures. It hits them, as i see them get knocked straight to the ground every horde night. The main weakness of the hamburger base is it is too short, the slants do not keep the zombies off anymore. So when these get destroyed i replace them with a solid block followed by a plate on the outside. 

 

Underneath the main bunker, is an escape tunnel, so should the bunker fail, i can escape down into a concrete corridor and have an epic last stand there. the tunnel connects to my main base. 

 

The big caveat, is that there is an epic hollow chamber under my main base where i found a giant node of:iron, nitrate, lead, and coal. I am turning that into a giant concrete chamber,  and the walls around my main base are topped with solar powered smg turrets so that i am not bothered by screamers while i run my wall of forges and chem station. When finished the chamber will be turned into steel, and serve as yet another last stand place, though i doubt i will need it. 

 

Pictures will be forthcoming soon. 

 

[Biscoitoso 78]

3 minutes ago, SenpaiThatIngnoresYou said:

It's this one. 

 

Instead of the iron spike traps, it's a field of steel with blade traps above it. The caveat is that under the field of steel, is an underground section that houses the generators for the blade traps. The blade traps are placed atop an arrow slit, so that i can maintain them from underground. Very useful as i can repair them while they run, and every solid block on top gets a plate under neath it, so it is technically two steel blocks thick. I put a punch turret on top, to deal with vultures. It hits them, as i see them get knocked straight to the ground every horde night. The main weakness of the hamburger base is it is too short, the slants do not keep the zombies off anymore. So when these get destroyed i replace them with a solid block followed by a plate on the outside. 

 

Underneath the main bunker, is an escape tunnel, so should the bunker fail, i can escape down into a concrete corridor and have an epic last stand there. the tunnel connects to my main base. 

 

The big caveat, is that there is an epic hollow chamber under my main base where i found a giant node of:iron, nitrate, lead, and coal. I am turning that into a giant concrete chamber,  and the walls around my main base are topped with solar powered smg turrets so that i am not bothered by screamers while i run my wall of forges and chem station. When finished the chamber will be turned into steel, and serve as yet another last stand place, though i doubt i will need it. 

 

Pictures will be forthcoming soon. 

 

Is that your channel? OMG MAN AMAZINT! Very neat! When I finish mine I will show you.

[SenpaiThatIngnoresYou 20]

4 minutes ago, Biscoitoso said:

Is that your channel? OMG MAN AMAZINT! Very neat! When I finish mine I will show you.

No, i am not jawoodle. However his base building has taught me quite a bit about the game. I copy and modify his ideas a lot. 

[Mday 2]

worst reward

[SenpaiThatIngnoresYou 20]

5 hours ago, Mday said:

worst reward

What the hell? That's some junk right there. no wonder my last play through was so easy, i maxed out better barter and just bought the good stuff out of the special stash when it came up. 

 

Things would not be so bad if the tier 5 quests did not dominate the quest list. It's almost as if you are better off not progressing at all. 

[Kalen 483]

I would much rather see tier 5 quests have awesome rewards, but not be available every day.   That way, when you see one available, you'll definitely want to do it.

[Teacyn 35]

10 hours ago, Kalen said:

I would much rather see tier 5 quests have awesome rewards, but not be available every day.   That way, when you see one available, you'll definitely want to do it.

The problem with this (and with T5 quests in general) is just that there isn't high-enough tier loot that exists to be considered "awesome" by the point you can handle tier 5 quests. The game runs out of items to progress through by T4 (and T4 already has some repeats), so T5 has mostly the same rewards but you get more of them sometimes, or a higher level sometimes. I don't think this issue is fixable until the late game is more developed, because there literally just is nothing T5 quests can give that makes them worth doing at that point. An idea could be to have items that can only be obtained via T5 quests, but I have a feeling people would find that really obnoxious (especially if for some reason TFP locked existing items this way instead of adding new ones)

[Kalen 483]

3 minutes ago, Teacyn said:

The problem with this (and with T5 quests in general) is just that there isn't high-enough tier loot that exists to be considered "awesome" by the point you can handle tier 5 quests. The game runs out of items to progress through by T4 (and T4 already has some repeats), so T5 has mostly the same rewards but you get more of them sometimes, or a higher level sometimes. I don't think this issue is fixable until the late game is more developed, because there literally just is nothing T5 quests can give that makes them worth doing at that point. An idea could be to have items that can only be obtained via T5 quests, but I have a feeling people would find that really obnoxious (especially if for some reason TFP locked existing items this way instead of adding new ones)

Well, I mean awesome compared to the rewards being shown in this thread.   If T5 quests always awarded quality 6 items it would be much better than what it currently awards, and for me anyway, be worth doing.   

[Mday 2]

lv6 is still possible, just much rare.

[Biscoitoso 78]

3 hours ago, Mday said:

lv6 is still possible, just much rare.

Sorry, I guess I dont expressed me correctly. My problem is not the rarity of quality 6 stuff, my problem are the low tier reward showing as a option like 1 antibiotic, Nail Gun, 5 First Aid Bandages...

20 hours ago, SenpaiThatIngnoresYou said:

What the hell? That's some junk right there. no wonder my last play through was so easy, i maxed out better barter and just bought the good stuff out of the special stash when it came up. 

 

Things would not be so bad if the tier 5 quests did not dominate the quest list. It's almost as if you are better off not progressing at all. 

That is one of my problems. The rarity of lower level quests after I liberated T5.

[meganoth 1,008]

9 hours ago, Biscoitoso said:

 

That is one of my problems. The rarity of lower level quests after I liberated T5.

AFAIK TFP said this is not a simple xml fix and needs some developer time. Which means A20.

 

[mr.devolver 272]

[Jeraal 67]

1 hour ago, mr.devolver said:

Definitely what it feels like at times, just like stone age looting.

[pApA^LeGBa 229]

I finally got to T5 quests with my latest save and the first two gave me a T6 Steel club and a T6 Swat helmet. Let´s see how this goes on.

[SenpaiThatIngnoresYou 20]

8 hours ago, mr.devolver said:

the sad bit, is that there was a time when that would have been considered top notch loot for the fertilizer. 

[RipClaw 310]

You wouldn't want to believe it. I completed a lot of T5 quests to get a Q6 Auger as a reward but no luck so far. Yesterday I accepted a T1 quest just for a change and there it was. I found it in a destroyed workbench. This is the proof that the game trolls me.