Ghostlight 63 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Was delighted to find a fairly large Crack-a-book in the town I setup beside in A19. This one was a new library-like POI that's pretty big and has the new expendable book piles to loot. I looted it day 5 and came away with.... 2 skill books 500 paper wth??? Is the A19 loot nerf hitting this as well? Had it been a Shotgun Messiah would I have come away with a level 2 Blunderbus or a Wooden Bow? Seriously. NO FUN ALLOWED. This needs fixed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Liesel Weppen 211 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Just now, Ghostlight said: wth??? Is the A19 loot nerf hitting this as well? Books are afaik not affected by the loot nerf, just weapons and tools. So in this case: Just bad luck, like it had ever been in 7d2d. Just now, Ghostlight said: Had it been a Shotgun Messiah would I have come away with a level 2 Blunderbus or a Wooden Bow? Yes, on day 5 with low gamestage you would have, because that are weapons. Link to post Share on other sites
RipClaw 310 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Liesel Weppen said: Books are afaik not affected by the loot nerf, just weapons and tools. Unfortunately, book shelves have been nerfed. The comment in the loot.xml is "temp fix for excessive use of lootable bookshelves instead of random placers". Link to post Share on other sites
Liesel Weppen 211 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, RipClaw said: Unfortunately, book shelves have been nerfed. The comment in the loot.xml is "temp fix for excessive use of lootable bookshelves instead of random placers". That comment is for the paper that drops in the bookshelfs. I don't know if the books themselfs have changed with the recent patches, but with B163 i got a book in almost every second bookshelf. Also afaik the droprate of books is still not affected by the stone-age mechanic. You can find every book from day 1. They are completely random. Link to post Share on other sites
pApA^LeGBa 229 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) The new book shelves simply suck. The standard one story crack a book, with tons of book piles and around 30 shelves: 2 books, one recipe with lucky looter on 1. Tried it again with LL at 3 in the next city. Got 3 books and 2 recipes. Don´t touch them since then in my SP besides the main loot, rather go for POI`s with the old shelves. TFP again went from one extreme into the opposite extreme. Someone thell them there is something called a middle ground... Edited July 24, 2020 by pApA^LeGBa (see edit history) Link to post Share on other sites
canadianbluebeer 80 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 RNG. We got a boatload of books out of that last night, and 3 boatloads of paper. Speaking of which, if you want stupid amounts of paper, clear the Crak-A-Book tower. All those paper rolls are now actual paper rolls. Waaaaayyy more than in the papermill. btw, I've had the only 1 book ,or no books in the crackabook in the stripmall version. Link to post Share on other sites
pApA^LeGBa 229 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I tried and started several new games. i did like 10 crack a books with LL at 2. Always the same. Hardly any books or recipes. It´s not only me, everyone from my MP has the same in his SP also. There is something off. Ehh, those paper rolls were so frustrating. Good to hear. One spot more in the backpack when looting other buildings 😛 Link to post Share on other sites
meganoth 926 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I think there are two blocks: The old generic bookstore box and the new shelfs with some books in it. The old box probably has 50% chance to find books, I even found two in the same box on several occasions. The new shelfs have a rather low chance. I think they did it to stuff bookstores and bookstore tower with them and not make these buildings OP. This was my experience in week 4, so it isn't just the gamestage, shelfs always seem to have a lower chance Sure, realism-wise you would expect to find tons of books in a bookstore tower. But for balance it shouldn't be like in a few previous alphas where bookstores were number one targets with number two following far far behind. Link to post Share on other sites
Boidster 643 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I've found 4 books so far (Day 4) in mailboxes. So they giveth while they taketh away... Link to post Share on other sites
Lffayen 0 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On the other hand, the crack-a-book tower and the paper mill are completely amazing. On one step above default difficulty I've been getting 100 paper from each paper roll with ratchet or impact driver as well as around 600xp. Which with that in mind probably needs a nerf of some kind. Getting either poi for a quest and resetting it to gain more paper rolls nets more xp than I'd ever imagined. Link to post Share on other sites
SenpaiThatIngnoresYou 20 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Ok that makes sense now. So the best way to get books now is to buy them? good to know. I got 500 paper from the new crack a book, it was a little disappointing. On the flip side now, paper is no longer difficult to find, so we are now in the era of cheap shotgun ammo. Link to post Share on other sites
canadianbluebeer 80 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Paper does pile up early on, but how fast will that go if using shotty turrets later on? Link to post Share on other sites
Demandred1957 58 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 On 7/24/2020 at 5:29 AM, Ghostlight said: Was delighted to find a fairly large Crack-a-book in the town I setup beside in A19. This one was a new library-like POI that's pretty big and has the new expendable book piles to loot. I looted it day 5 and came away with.... 2 skill books 500 paper wth??? Is the A19 loot nerf hitting this as well? Had it been a Shotgun Messiah would I have come away with a level 2 Blunderbus or a Wooden Bow? Seriously. NO FUN ALLOWED. This needs fixed. Yeah, I got a similar result. It has to be the loot nerfing thing, cause I was only like gs 11 or something when I hit it. Bookshelf after bookshelf of nothing but paper. Link to post Share on other sites
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