14U2NV Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, 7daysOfFun said: somebody known when the new update comes? iv lowered all grafix (nothing changes with the lags) ...i cant play it at the moment...its unplayable started steam every day to see when update is there iv tried to rollback..but steam doesnt allow me to do this..only a18.4 or a19 163 i hope they do it fast..i miss to play the game Seems the last few Fridays have had an update, so here's hoping... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboyxg Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 You can rollback to A19 163 update if so can you navigate me pls ? and same for me I every day check 7 days to die for update but still nothing .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysOfFun Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 oh sorry writing error..i mean STEAM DOESNT ALLOW downgrade from a19 169.. only to a18.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor3D Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I personally found that those loading stutters only happen at first when you first load the game. After you move around a bit and load things in - it stops. It's annoying, sure - but if you can tough through the first few minutes and load it all in - it runs ok after that. *I'm playing using a Nitrogen map hosted on a server with the city size & counts maxed - so all the clients get a pretty good stall when they first load in and go towards a city. But once they've moved through the city for a few mins - it all smooths out and the hangs stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatKitano Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 No it happens constantly as soon as you hit other chunks, sure if you stay in the same areas after the initial hitches it's fine. But I don't want the hitches no matter what. This is not a walking simulator, you can encounter deadly ex-humans and wolf/bears anytime, I don't want to drop at 10fps AT THAT MOMENT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Have the same issue on my son's new PC. Ryzen 5 3600, m.2 drive, rx580 8gig gpu, 16 gigs of ram. Lowered textures and turned off graphic options, but still stutters almost to an unplayable point. My own pc, i7-8700k, ssd, 1080ti, 16 gigs ram, I don't notice it much and haven't changed my graphic settings at all. But I do notice a little stutter once in a while. I have benchmarked both pc's and they are pretty even except for the fact that my gpu has 11 gigs of vram and his 8. But he has a much better HD, cpu's are about equal. There were no problems at all running on high settings on both pc's before the 169. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatKitano Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, dan said: Have the same issue on my son's new PC. Ryzen 5 3600, m.2 drive, rx580 8gig gpu, 16 gigs of ram. Lowered textures and turned off graphic options, but still stutters almost to an unplayable point. My own pc, i7-8700k, ssd, 1080ti, 16 gigs ram, I don't notice it much and haven't changed my graphic settings at all. But I do notice a little stutter once in a while. I have benchmarked both pc's and they are pretty even except for the fact that my gpu has 11 gigs of vram and his 8. But he has a much better HD, cpu's are about equal. There were no problems at all running on high settings on both pc's before the 169. Yep, clear performance regression. I don't know what they did.. and I'm guessing it's probably necessary for future updates but this makes me really worry about game optimization down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor3D Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, BeatKitano said: No it happens constantly as soon as you hit other chunks, sure if you stay in the same areas after the initial hitches it's fine. But I don't want the hitches no matter what. This is not a walking simulator, you can encounter deadly ex-humans and wolf/bears anytime, I don't want to drop at 10fps AT THAT MOMENT. Oh - that's not happening to me, then. I only get those stalls like that in the first 5 or so mins of play. I just hop on my motorcycle and ride around real quick to a city and a trader and after that initial stutter fest - I don't get them anymore - no matter where I go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdeathmnkey Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I'm showing a steady drop of 15-20 frames outdoors driving through the forest on the minibike. Inside at night i'm averaging about 70fps. You can see my current setttings in the pics. As for my system it's a brand new build: -Ryzen 9 3900x -32gb Trident Z Neo series 3600 Mhz -Gigabyte x570 Ultra mobo -WD Black SN750 1TB nvme M.2 SSD -XFX RX 5700 XT Ultra THICC III -Windows 10 Home Nothing is overclocked as of right now, but it was definitely running better before b169. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelLife Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I have everything you guys have and created a bug report. If you guys want to add to it it might get more traction to be reverted/ fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reckis Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I was having the same problems until I turned my Terrain Quality down. Medium corrected it for my single player, but I had to set it to low on the MP I play with my wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughgalaxy Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 The issue, as I mentioned before, is (most likely) the "feature" they added "Normal entities load their prefabs and meshes on demand instead of during world load". If you got a high powered machine, you'll see less chop after the start because you may (probably) have your settings turned up, which loads a bunch of stuff around you, and thereby only showing the problem when moving at higher speeds and/or moving into POI dense areas. If you are running a lower end rig, your draw distance is (usually) set lower which means you get constant "on demand" loading of prefabs and assets causing your game to be an unplayable lag fest. The simple truth is 7dtd wasn't built to have this feature from the start, and it needs to be perfected BEFORE being implemented, made optional in the settings, or abandoned all together; because it pushes the system requirements to a noticeably higher bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caatalyst Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 I can also report this issue. I run settings mostly high / ultra except for UMA at medium as this seems to tank FPS for some reason even before the update. My frames are generally 60-80 but can tank as low as 10-20 for periods of time. I'm not entirely sure what the cause it but I noticed that looking at the sky makes them go back up. In one instance lowering terrain quality to low seemed to boost my frames but it didn't feel consistent still. i9900k 32gb ram Nvidia 2070 Samsung 830 SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylenThunder Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 An update for you guys. Just tested this out in b172 on my min-spec PC, and though it did hitch twice for about 1 second, I can't say it was unexpected on this system. It was a huge improvement over b169. Intel Q6600 Core 2 Quad 8GB DDR2 800MHz GTX 770 2GB 1TB WD Black 7200rpm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysOfFun Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, SylenThunder said: An update for you guys. Just tested this out in b172 on my min-spec PC, and though it did hitch twice for about 1 second, I can't say it was unexpected on this system. It was a huge improvement over b169. Intel Q6600 Core 2 Quad 8GB DDR2 800MHz GTX 770 2GB 1TB WD Black 7200rpm omg omg omg...(iv used the google translator, but it was worst) ur words perhaps mean it will be run better???? every day i start steam to get an update *sarcastic mode on* BUT BUT BUT.....2 gb grafixcard??? which grafix settings u have? ultra+ - ultra - high- medium- normal - minecraft - potato? *sarcastic mode off* i hope on ultra+it gets better, because it loads a ton of data - im destroying my head since days, to CHECK / UNDERSTAND why they changed such a thing, that runned perfect and now makes me crazy when i start the game..^^ but im good hope for it..."pc masterrace fanatic :D" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylenThunder Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, 7daysOfFun said: omg omg omg...(iv used the google translator, but it was worst) ur words perhaps mean it will be run better???? every day i start steam to get an update *sarcastic mode on* BUT BUT BUT.....2 gb grafixcard??? which grafix settings u have? ultra+ - ultra - high- medium- normal - minecraft - potato? *sarcastic mode off* i hope on ultra+it gets better, because it loads a ton of data - im destroying my head since days, to CHECK / UNDERSTAND why they changed such a thing, that runned perfect and now makes me crazy when i start the game..^^ but im good hope for it..."pc masterrace fanatic :D" Yes, I was getting 45FPS stable on that system. It dipped to 14 for a brief second twice entering a town, but was fine otherwise. This is a system where I was testing bloated vs streamlined. Details on that test are on the Steam forum here. I consider this a fairly large boon since this PC almost perfectly mimics the minimum specifications as listed in Steam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14U2NV Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 hours ago, SylenThunder said: An update for you guys. Just tested this out in b172 on my min-spec PC, and though it did hitch twice for about 1 second, I can't say it was unexpected on this system. It was a huge improvement over b169. Intel Q6600 Core 2 Quad 8GB DDR2 800MHz GTX 770 2GB 1TB WD Black 7200rpm Thanks for the info SylenThunder. Here's hoping that I get performance on par or better than before b169 dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripflex Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 We don't have posts our system specs, TFP did something wrong. Build 153 Smooth as silk lots most vieo options on High, build 16x - b169 FPS just tanking with each b16x build... I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammel Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 9 hours ago, Ripflex said: We don't have posts our system specs, TFP did something wrong. Build 153 Smooth as silk lots most vieo options on High, build 16x - b169 FPS just tanking with each b16x build... I'm confused. No they didn't. They tried something and it did not work, so they are changing it again. It is called experimenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXSe Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Lowering shadow settings helped me out a bit... until I wandered into the Wasteland. Talk about a slideshow man 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysOfFun Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 i made a video from it (for laughing)...we hope nxt days the new version gets better (and REMEMBER last week was all perfect with the old version) here my specs running the video...>visuality max screensize 3840*1080 (video is 4k) u see good the start (before 8 sek, now 28sek) and then the drops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14U2NV Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 That video above was my exact experience too. Super smooth b163 to a slideshow in b169. Hopefully TFP figured it out and SylenThunder saw some improved performance in his/her test, so fingers crossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylenThunder Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 hours ago, 14U2NV said: That video above was my exact experience too. Super smooth b163 to a slideshow in b169. Hopefully TFP figured it out and SylenThunder saw some improved performance in his/her test, so fingers crossed On b173 now and it's butter smooth on my main PC. Haven't tested the min spec machine yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboyxg Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, SylenThunder said: On b173 now and it's butter smooth on my main PC. Haven't tested the min spec machine yet. Hope we get A173 exp soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galifrey1965 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 hours ago, SylenThunder said: On b173 now and it's butter smooth on my main PC. Haven't tested the min spec machine yet. hope so, because if it was bad vanilla, modded it was a slideshow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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