Vampirenostra Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Same here, MacBook Pro 2018 with i7/16Gbs Ram/Radeon Pro X555 4Gbs. It was absolutely prefect in 17.x, it was playable (around 40 fps mid settings) in 18.x, now with 19.x it is barely playable with all settings "lowest" and resolution set to 1440x900 it stutters all the time and every move... It behaves so weird as if there is a constant lack of some resource if I stand still I get like 45-50 fps, but any move causes drops to 15-20, and a stutter lake a screen lag, sometimes it drops to 1-5 fps and that is annoying... Stopped playing just to keep my nerves in tact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14U2NV Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Banana Fishbones said: could it be something with the GPU? I am not having any problems at all running ultra with a 5600 xt. My daughter is on medium with a gtx 1660 and having all sorts of problems. Possibly a gpu issue, but my concern is that from the moment A19 Exp dropped it's ran perfect for me (probably the best performance I've had from an Alpha in quite a while) but this last b169 introduced serious stuttering and overall lag. I have a nVidia 950 GTX SC btw. Fingers still crossed for TFP to track down what changed and if its something that works great for some and not others then maybe have it as a "enable/disable" option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen37 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I got steady 60 FPS in Forest, desert is bit worse but still fine. Snow and wasteland is really bad and for some reason when I am around water in dips to 10-15 fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylenThunder Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Just for a reference, I did some tests on a PC that is AT minimum specs. With the platter drive, the loading stutters were real. However with some optimization it cleaned it up quite a bit. https://steamcommunity.com/app/251570/discussions/0/2570942124844038592/?ctp=6#c4349865446122559433 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughgalaxy Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Item 12 of the change log (Under "Changed") is most likely the culprit Normal entities load their prefabs and meshes on demand instead of during world load That's a LOT of stuff potentially loading as you move through the world. I'd much rather just have the world load like it did before. I'm not that impatient. edit: Running Ryzen 7 1700, 32gb ddr4 ram, gtx 1060. Settings low to medium. As others have mentioned, the previous EXP did not have this issue. Hence why I think that this feature is the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCrook1028 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Definitely getting the stutters here: Win 10 I7 860 at 2.9 gghz 1050TI at 4 gig 16 gig ddr3 1333 ram game installed on SSD save file on HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammel Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 So far I have only seen nvidia cards listed with the problem machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylenThunder Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, cammel said: So far I have only seen nvidia cards listed with the problem machines. Considering over 70% of users have Nvidia cards, this really isn't that surprising. Also not everyone reporting the issue has provided hardware information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cammel Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I know, but it would help if they would. gives a better understanding of where to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahaan Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I barely notice, but do notice, the loads, on a reasnably fast SSD, 24 GB ram, i7 8750 system. For me the thing that got remarkably worse is the frame drops when I have a forge or campfire burning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylenThunder Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, Tahaan said: I barely notice, but do notice, the loads, on a reasnably fast SSD, 24 GB ram, i7 8750 system. For me the thing that got remarkably worse is the frame drops when I have a forge or campfire burning. Ok, well notably that is a laptop. What GPU do you have, and have you configured it for maximum performance when running 7 Days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahaan Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, SylenThunder said: Ok, well notably that is a laptop. What GPU do you have, and have you configured it for maximum performance when running 7 Days? The GPU is a GTX 1060 Mobile. Running Linux, and running the same config that I did with B163. In the last or possibly last two builds of A18 the fps drop with forges and campfires were solved. It came back with A19 b169, not before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raestloz Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Yep, same here. Vega 56, SX8200 Pro, Linux. Stutters a lot. Maybe their dev machine was fast and when they tried it they didn't feel any big performance issues. The change does lead to much faster server start, but by god it makes playing it difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellsmoke Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I found Alpha 19 in general to run really bad. I couldn't play it for more than ten min before deciding to wait it out. I'm running a 9th gen I5 with 2x16 gb corsair dominator 3200MHz and a RTX 2060 Rog Strix. That and I'm not a fan of the loot changes so I didn't investigate much tbh. Hope BOTH get sorted out soon or I'm coming over there and it's knuckle rubs for everyone at TFP lol. Jk of course, you guys will figure it out I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbluebeer Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Started a new game last night. Some stuttering/pausing on load, but nothing major... until.. time to head to the trader. As I got to the town, fps dropped from 60 down to less than 1. Stop moving, wait a few seconds... fps pops back up. Move some more.. drops again.. Loading the prefabs, or saving new regions could be it. This did NOT happen in 163. (once everything has loaded, FPS is around 60 most of the time, standard drops for various areas) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Latest exp build also gave me performance issues until I dropped terrain quality all the way to low (other settings make little difference). Still hitching and jerking, but at least it doesn't drop frames into the single digits now. Earlier A19 builds felt really smooth in this regard, but I was playing a pregen map with those, while I'm on a Nitrogen map now (although a pretty standard one). Just in case that makes a difference. Windows 10 i7 8700 @ 3.20GHz GTX 1080 16GB Ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadhunterU23 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 It's not the hardware, it's the build, I have monstrous lags with this build when one hour ago I was playing on the previous build without issues. I have an i7-8700K at 4.7 all cores, 1080ti and SSDs only. It's the build not our PCs. I stopped playing the previous build, Steam updated it and now it's unplayable. I have drops as low as 2 fps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampirenostra Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 17 hours ago, cammel said: So far I have only seen nvidia cards listed with the problem machines. you probably missed my post))) Macs here))) We only have Radon's if it is not thomething from early 13th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana Fishbones Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Iam running Ryzen 5 3600x RX 5600 xt 16 gig ram SSD win 10 Pro x64 i have not overclocked it yet. still working out the system. my settings are ultra with exception to water which i have set medium everything seems to run fine. Ran 120 fps with 18 and solid 80-90s with 19. I didnt play any 19s before 169 so cant say for sure if it got worse but my daughters definitely did. only time i drop frames is when someone logs into my game. then it clears. she has an I5 gtx 1660 8 gig ram ssd win 10 x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amtres Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I had this issue. specs are as follows; EDIT: I am on a 4k monitor but am playing on 2k resolution, sorry CPU: i7 8700k very mildly overclocked/water-cooled RAM: GSkill Trident Z RGB 32GB@3200mhz HDD: (install and save) Samsung 970 EVO M2 SSD (PREVIOUSLY ON A 5900rpm WD drive) GPU: MSI 1080ti water-cooled Monitor: 4k@60fps (settings for game were at ultra everything on ran smooth) OS: Win 10 Pro x64 Legit install upon installing b169, which was originally on my 5900rpm sata HD, my fps tanked from smooth 60fps@4k to 1-5fps every time a zombie/chunk/LOD/cell...whatever loaded. I reinstalled the game to my SSD and turned all settings to high and it was pretty much the same. turning off god rays/sun shafts seemed to pretty much fix it for me though. Not saying this is the solution OR the root cause of the problem, rather this is what worked for me and hopefully this adds to the pool of data to help TFP figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feycat Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Yup, definitely a ton of chop when playing now. FPS was stable at 30-50 and now hovers around 19. I even get big choppy inside buildings if there's a lot of zombies around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuriles Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Same here. Loading a game now is much faster compared to last build. But then the first 10-30 seconds are unplayable when all chunks are loaded afterwards. Then it stabilizes until you enter a new region (with bike or move around a house corner with a wider area opening up). Then again stutters with 5-20 seconds. I would take a longer loading time on startup than having that big stuttering while playing. Maybe there is way to do have the best of both worlds. I've still a mechanical HDD where my games are installed (new one is on the way), but rest of the system should be more than enough (i5, 16 GB RAM and GTX 1080). The rest runs still very smooth compared to A18 on 4k resolution and high-ultra settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboyxg Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 For me this latest update A169 dropped my fps asf before A169 update my game was sitting between medium to high with stable 60-70 plus Fps. But now Everything is on lowest even resolution and im not able to be on 20fps STABLE because of this update .... Pls Revert back A163 PC Graphic Gtx 1060 6GB Processor i5 8600K Overclocked to 4.5 Ghz Ram 16GB 3200 Mhz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatKitano Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 It's truly awful. Please whatever it is, it need fixing. I'd rather have average/lower fps than spikes of NOPE NO FPS out of nowhere. My config is unbalanced atm (replacing most of it with newer parts, cpu is super old i7) but I'm loading the game from a SSD so I/O is not the issue, my gpu is a 2070 super with 8GB and it's not even full in game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysOfFun Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 somebody known when the new update comes? iv lowered all grafix (nothing changes with the lags) ...i cant play it at the moment...its unplayable started steam every day to see when update is there iv tried to rollback..but steam doesnt allow me to do this..only a18.4 or a19 163 i hope they do it fast..i miss to play the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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