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54 minutes ago, Pegasus said:

The real question is whether or not they breathe.  If they breathe ... or at least their diaphragms work and inhales and exhales air into their lungs, it would make sense that they would float ... and that the movement of their legs and arms would mimic swimming. 

If they don't then they are breaking the laws of physics, because they are making energy from nothing..

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3 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

If they don't then they are breaking the laws of physics, because they are making energy from nothing..

They have to be "breathing" yes? The fact that they make guttural noises when they are alerted/attacking you makes me think air is being pushed through and energy (as Demandred alludes to) going through the vocal chords.

 

I vote that they are inhaling/exhaling!

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2 hours ago, beerfly said:

@madmole, um hey man, what are the latest things you are working on for A19, every experimental update gives us really good new stuff and fixes, is there anything cool that we should be even more hyped of ? Even a tiny bit ? :)

I'm done with A19 unless there is a bug I can help with. I'm working with concept artists on special infected and pipe weapon visual design. That stuff will all be really cool.

2 hours ago, Toban said:

@Madmole Are the new shapes you showed us going to be in A19 or 20? Thanks in advance.

I don't know, it would depend if they merge it over or not.

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12 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

If they don't then they are breaking the laws of physics, because they are making energy from nothing..

They are dead and walking around ... some of them barf 20 feet ... some of them explode ... and you have a problem with swimming as being against the laws of physics and reality?

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1 hour ago, Demandred1957 said:

Dead bodies that float are also broken down and squishy, because of the bacteria that are making the gases that cause them to float...

This zoms are doing hard reps at the gym..

Lame excuse.

What part of "there should be no easy way to avoid the horde" don't you get? We could make zeds not swim, but then we would have to make players drown when they run out of stamina so I'd rather not hear all the complaints about drowning and have zombies be able to get to you in the water. We have our own lore that is molded around tower defense, fun and challenge, not Romero lore or whatever flick you think feels real and immersive.

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(sitting on the porch, watching the clouds drift by)

 

"Jugg, I swear you ain't got a lick o sense when it comes to looks." "Remember that stray dog you took in?" "Part Pug, part weiner and part Possum, 100% fugly." "Used to scare all the kids in the neighborhood!"

 

"did I tell you I overhead Snowdog and another feller on the CB, might a been DaVega or maybe that ole hoot Guppycur, anyways, they were going on and on about sometin down at Aunt Sallys Apoc-A-Go-Go.."

 

"I dint have anything else going on, so I decided to head over and see fer myself." "When I got there I was confused, cause there were a number of gals waitin to get in. and aint never seen that before, but I figured that can't hurt, more pretty ladies n all."

 

"Turned out it weren't Aunt Sallys normal fare, there were some gals on stage sure nough, but they were all dressed up in evenin gowns n such, singing and dancing." "Was a bit disappointed but had already paid the cover so decides to stay fer a bit."

 

"bout 20 minutes later the DJ comes on saying 'Now for what you've all been waiting for! The Fabulous Cherrr!!"

 

"An I couldn't make this up ifn I tried, yu know who came out from behind the curtain then??" "Come on Jugg, guess!" "You'll never guess so I'll tells ya..."

 

"It was Roland!! All gussied up in a short red sequined tight dress!" "I couldn't belive my own eyes!" "But all them gals I mentioned had been waitin to get in?" "Well they went nuts! Screamin and yelling, hell yu'd a thought Elvis was on stage!"

 

"Meanwhile I'd almost choked on my beer, but yep, it was him fer sure." "So he started in with the dancing and singer stuff, and it was kinda comical with the short dress n all, see Roland has some really skinny legs.. (chuckling)"

 

"Has a hell of a voice though."

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Just now, madmole said:

What part of "there should be no easy way to avoid the horde" don't you get? We could make zeds not swim, but then we would have to make players drown when they run out of stamina so I'd rather not hear all the complaints about drowning and have zombies be able to get to you in the water. We have our own lore that is molded around tower defense, fun and challenge, not Romero lore or whatever flick you think feels real and immersive.

Yeah, you SHOULD drown.. When I first started playing I avoided the water, because I thought I WOULD drown.. Imagine my shock when I found out I could do a jesus thing and walk on water...

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9 minutes ago, madmole said:

I'm done with A19 unless there is a bug I can help with. I'm working with concept artists on special infected and pipe weapon visual design. That stuff will all be really cool.

I don't know, it would depend if they merge it over or not.

Okay, thank you for letting me know. 🙂 👍

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2 minutes ago, madmole said:

What part of "there should be no easy way to avoid the horde" don't you get? We could make zeds not swim, but then we would have to make players drown when they run out of stamina so I'd rather not hear all the complaints about drowning and have zombies be able to get to you in the water. We have our own lore that is molded around tower defense, fun and challenge, not Romero lore or whatever flick you think feels real and immersive.

I think @Demandred1957 is forgetting that dead bodies don't really get up at all. If they cant think outside of "Realistic" then they really shouldn't be playing Horror fiction games, reading horror fiction books or watching horror fiction movies :) But some people just can't see outside their tiny box they find so comfy ❤️ 

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4 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

Yeah, you SHOULD drown.. When I first started playing I avoided the water, because I thought I WOULD drown.. Imagine my shock when I found out I could do a jesus thing and walk on water...

We can always put that in. Until water and RWG gets fixed those details don't matter that much IMO. I've yet to see a lake deep enough to swim in, let alone get fully submerged, are you guys playing Navezgane or something?

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Just now, Laynie said:

I think @Demandred1957 is forgetting that dead bodies don't really get up at all. If they cant think outside of "Realistic" then they really shouldn't be playing Horror fiction games, reading horror fiction books or watching horror fiction movies :) But some people just can't see outside their tiny box they find so comfy ❤️ 

Ohh, the sting on that one... not.

My point is, there is a wide and deep lore already surrounding zom's

That's the exact reason I didn't invest my time in the "walking" dead.. Because THEY COULD RUN..

Don't criticize my viewpoint with your equally narrow one.

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1 minute ago, madmole said:

We can always put that in. Until water and RWG gets fixed those details don't matter that much IMO. I've yet to see a lake deep enough to swim in, let alone get fully submerged, are you guys playing Navezgane or something?

my rng has a few lakes in it, though i wish it would generate more, swimming i generally avoid, one thing i would enjoy is if we could over time have it so filling jars does drain lakes not connected to the outer water area, would be interesting to say the least, and when it rains i wish we could have a water collecter

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Just now, Demandred1957 said:

Ohh, the sting on that one... not.

My point is, there is a wide and deep lore already surrounding zom's

That's the exact reason I didn't invest my time in the "walking" dead.. Because THEY COULD RUN..

Don't criticize my viewpoint with your equally narrow one.

My view point can see that all lore starts somewhere. :) Each creator makes up their own lore. This is 7 days to die. The lore is what they say it is! 

Just an opinion from a narrow minded person :) 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, madmole said:

We can always put that in. Until water and RWG gets fixed those details don't matter that much IMO. I've yet to see a lake deep enough to swim in, let alone get fully submerged, are you guys playing Navezgane or something?

I was yeah. That little house out on the lake is the only reason I found out I could walk on water.

But if you do that, take away the swimmers.

After all no need for them if you can't walk on water forever.

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2 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

Ohh, the sting on that one... not.

My point is, there is a wide and deep lore already surrounding zom's

That's the exact reason I didn't invest my time in the "walking" dead.. Because THEY COULD RUN..

Don't criticize my viewpoint with your equally narrow one.

dude, you gotta chill, i watched a movie where zombies got created from some modified crack, but seriously u gotta chill out, its a game, its fun, and plenty to see in the future, as much as some aspects of realism could amp it up, im fine with it as is and looking forward to more

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10 minutes ago, Phoenixshade35 said:

dude, you gotta chill, i watched a movie where zombies got created from some modified crack, but seriously u gotta chill out, its a game, its fun, and plenty to see in the future, as much as some aspects of realism could amp it up, im fine with it as is and looking forward to more

Another good one is Zombeavers PMSL. The out takes were 🤦‍♀️too funny 🤣

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1 minute ago, Jay_ombie said:

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Any reason that trucks and the bus do not break down like the cars in stages  ?

i actually wish all cars didnt break down, its cool but not needed, with the exception that stage 2 your more likely to get engines and batteries, its neat in the long run, less hp would be ok lol

Just now, Laynie said:

Another good one is Zombeavers PMSL. The out takes where too funny 🤣

the one i mentioned is called Zombies, Zombies, Zombies and takes place mostly in a strip club lol, ive seen zombeavers and it was amazing

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5 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

Ohh, the sting on that one... not.

My point is, there is a wide and deep lore already surrounding zom's

That's the exact reason I didn't invest my time in the "walking" dead.. Because THEY COULD RUN..

Don't criticize my viewpoint with your equally narrow one.

I would like to point out that the only lore and viewpoint that really matters is the one the pimps have for their game.  They said they will be releasing their lore eventually.  It's their world.  The zombies can swim ... they could dance the hula if the devs thought that was part of the lore.  

 

@madmole There are plenty of lakes deep enough to fully submerge in the pregen worlds and on random maps.  My current one is actually built on a tiny island ... and I don't know if it's intended or not ... but i avoid the swimming zombies by sinking to the bottom and walking on the bottom ... i can hold my breath long enough to make it through.  Although, I haven't tried it with this latest 2 patches, been busy with work ... so maybe that's been fixed and they can swim down now.

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4 minutes ago, Phoenixshade35 said:

i actually wish all cars didnt break down, its cool but not needed, with the exception that stage 2 your more likely to get engines and batteries, its neat in the long run, less hp would be ok lol

the one i mentioned is called Zombies, Zombies, Zombies and takes place mostly in a strip club lol, ive seen zombeavers and it was amazing

"Those b*tches are crack wh*re zombies!!!" hahahaha 🤣

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