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1 minute ago, Pegasus said:

Since I'm not digging into youtube files ... why don't you tell us what settings you are using that are giving you such trouble?

 

What map are you using? What difficulty settings? What loot settings?  Single player or mulitplayer?  

 

What is your strategy, what are you actually doing that is so untenable?

 

I've not had a lick of trouble finding schems and such right off the bat, nor progressing.  But I also play with mostly default settings and I'm not what you would call an aggressive player.  I tend to avoid fights in the beginning and only loot places I can get into and out of easily ... I don't feel the need to prove I'm a bada##.

 

What exactly is it that you're not finding that is making making it such a nightmare for you?

Default, pregen 01, 32 zoms per blood moon horde loot respawn @15 days.

My strategy is to use my brains to stay alive..

Don't know if it's a bug or not, but I burn through food like crazy just standing still..

like for real, watch it tick down every few seconds..

I loot some of the smaller poi's, since I have found out on a prev run how nerfed looting is.. but other than that, I just do new player stuff.

And yeah, I play super scaredy cat on top of that.,, I don't go into a fight unless I have a (small) chance of winning.

I literally don't find hardly anything except paper, and the few odd blueprints that won't help me NOW. Only one I know of is the pump shotty blueprint, which takes a bunch of forged steel and shotgun parts to make..smh

and single player.

10 minutes ago, AtomicUs5000 said:

Ever try 10 minute days, longest nights, BM daily?
That's some funny (and fun) stuff right there.
The things you do to keep your health up is pretty insane.
You go on a buried treasure mission and a couple BMs could happen throughout it.

ugh no.. Although I fully support your option to do it..

Nothing about anything you said sounds even remotely fun to me.

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18 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

I had to buy a lvl 1 pump shotty and ak both to have something decent to fight the horde with..

 

Fighting the horde is where the blunderbuss really shines though, as its reload does not really matter as much. 

 

On a 5 high base you can easily 1 shot most zombies with a blunderbuss headshot on nomad.  The range actually is not that bad. 

 

That being said I am on like day 19 now and I finally found a pump shotgun recipe... No good ones found yet.

 

I am also mostly invested in turrets, but the only one I have is a tier 1 I had to buy... still waiting to find a good one or the recipe so I can actually test them out lel. 

 

I am currently level 40 in that game.

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1 minute ago, pregnable said:

 

Fighting the horde is where the blunderbuss really shines though, as its reload does not really matter as much. 

 

On a 5 high base you can easily 1 shot most zombies with a blunderbuss headshot on nomad.  The range actually is not that bad. 

 

That being said I am on like day 19 now and I finally found a pump shotgun recipe... No good ones found yet.

 

I am also mostly invested in turrets, but the only one I have is a tier 1 I had to buy... still waiting to find a good one or the recipe so I can actually test them out lel. 

 

I am currently level 40 in that game.

i had fun with the robotic sledge, i posted a small snipit of it a few pages back, i think around 650 or later, i have a new love for it and when stable hits and im forced to restart, im so specing into it more than i have

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1 hour ago, Adam the Waster said:

Da heck you talking about?

 

did you get it today?

 

yes.. Steam had the update scheduled for later today but I forced the update and then posted on here right after as my version shows alpha 19 b178

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7 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

Default, pregen 01, 32 zoms per blood moon horde loot respawn @15 days.

My strategy is to use my brains to stay alive..

Don't know if it's a bug or not, but I burn through food like crazy just standing still..

like for real, watch it tick down every few seconds..

I loot some of the smaller poi's, since I have found out on a prev run how nerfed looting is.. but other than that, I just do new player stuff.

And yeah, I play super scaredy cat on top of that.,, I don't go into a fight unless I have a (small) chance of winning.

I literally don't find hardly anything except paper, and the few odd blueprints that won't help me NOW. Only one I know of is the pump shotty blueprint, which takes a bunch of forged steel and shotgun parts to make..smh

and single player.

ugh no.. Although I fully support your option to do it..

Nothing about anything you said sounds even remotely fun to me.

What are your loot and experience percentages?

 

And you are not playing on anything approaching default settings.  32 zombies per blood moon stage is insane.

 

And yes, food does go down rapidly ... it's a good idea to invest a few points early on in iron gut ... just a couple help a lot.

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Just now, pregnable said:

 

Fighting the horde is where the blunderbuss really shines though, as its reload does not really matter as much. 

 

On a 5 high base you can easily 1 shot most zombies with a blunderbuss headshot on nomad.  The range actually is not that bad. 

 

That being said I am on like day 19 now and I finally found a pump shotgun recipe... No good ones found yet.

 

I am also mostly invested in turrets, but the only one I have is a tier 1 I had to buy... still waiting to find a good one or the recipe so I can actually test them out lel. 

 

I am currently level 40 in that game.

I havent posted it yet, but during my day 14 horde I am in a "glock9" style base which is 3? high, and I am blasting them with the good stuff and a lvl 6 blunderbuss. not getting hardly any one shot kills from it.

haven't put anything into turrets, since you can't just build them now..

Guess this play is cursed since I seem to be getting the short end of the stick all round.

1 minute ago, Pegasus said:

What are your loot and experience percentages?

 

And you are not playing on anything approaching default settings.  32 zombies per blood moon stage is insane.

 

And yes, food does go down rapidly ... it's a good idea to invest a few points early on in iron gut ... just a couple help a lot.

loot and exp are default.

IDC about bloodmoon hordes. I have a glock9 style base, so they are just exp for me, unless I do something dumb like fall through a blasted hole or something.

I have at least 1 point if not two into iron gut..It just burns down..

The only thing I have helping me is loot at 15 days, although that is a moot point since I just hit day 15..

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One type of difficulty i would like is a hardcore mode, like the one ark has where when you die, your back to level 1, that could make for some interesting gameplay given you would still have your base but you wouldn't have the levels to back it up haha

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1 minute ago, Phoenixshade35 said:

One type of difficulty i would like is a hardcore mode, like the one ark has where when you die, your back to level 1, that could make for some interesting gameplay given you would still have your base but you wouldn't have the levels to back it up haha

Just delete your save when you die.

We call it "Permadeath".

Thanks to Glock9's stupid butt, that's the only way I can play these days, since coming "back to life" after you have been eaten seems so cheap and easy to me now.

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6 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

I havent posted it yet, but during my day 14 horde I am in a "glock9" style base which is 3? high, and I am blasting them with the good stuff and a lvl 6 blunderbuss. not getting hardly any one shot kills from it.

haven't put anything into turrets, since you can't just build them now..

Guess this play is cursed since I seem to be getting the short end of the stick all round.

loot and exp are default.

IDC about bloodmoon hordes. I have a glock9 style base, so they are just exp for me, unless I do something dumb like fall through a blasted hole or something.

I have at least 1 point if not two into iron gut..It just burns down..

The only thing I have helping me is loot at 15 days, although that is a moot point since I just hit day 15..

Okay I'm going to give a try on those settings, minus the permadeath and the blood moons.

 

Do you have air drops on?  Are you looting everything?  by that i mean trash containers, mailboxes, cars, etc?  or are you just looking in "high" loot areas?

 

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21 minutes ago, Phoenixshade35 said:

i had fun with the robotic sledge, i posted a small snipit of it a few pages back, i think around 650 or later, i have a new love for it and when stable hits and im forced to restart, im so specing into it more than i have

 

Yeah the robotic sledge seems pretty cool, I am going to test it out with a modification to my base to see if it can just melee them all safely from above heh. 

 

The same design lets me melee from the top of the base with a spear, which might make them seem more useful again IDK. 

18 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

I havent posted it yet, but during my day 14 horde I am in a "glock9" style base which is 3? high, and I am blasting them with the good stuff and a lvl 6 blunderbuss. not getting hardly any one shot kills from it.

haven't put anything into turrets, since you can't just build them now..

Guess this play is cursed since I seem to be getting the short end of the stick all round.

 

I am not sure, I can almost always get a 1 shot kill with the blunderbuss on nomad. 

 

Are you zooming in to aim?  I never aim with it... I always hipfire and have very good results. 

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Just now, Pegasus said:

Okay I'm going to give a try on those settings, minus the permadeath and the blood moons.

 

Do you have air drops on?  Are you looting everything?  by that i mean trash containers, mailboxes, cars, etc?  or are you just looking in "high" loot areas?

 

Yeah, air drops every 3 days and marked on map. forgot about that bit of help... And yep, loot everything I come across like mailboxes etc. I just avoid the "high value" poi's like crack a book and shotgun messiah, even though they are just down the street from me.

2 minutes ago, pregnable said:

 

Yeah the robotic sledge seems pretty cool, I am going to test it out with a modification to my base to see if it can just melee them all safely from above heh. 

 

The same design lets me melee from the top of the base with a spear, which might make them seem more useful again IDK. 

 

I am not sure, I can almost always get a 1 shot kill with the blunderbuss on nomad. 

 

Are you zooming in to aim?  I never aim with it... I always hipfire and have very good results. 

sometimes zoom, sometimes no.. doesn't seem to make much diff in my game.

If I am close enough to touch them and zoom for the head shot then yeah, but not on Moe, or the bikers.. those are strictly 2 shots from a lvl 6 blunder always.

 

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10 minutes ago, Adam the Waster said:

Update!

sorry dude i didn't believe you! 

 

 

no hassle.. thanks for the link to the beta update thread as well - very useful as I'm always wondering what was fixed in each micro patch.

 

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Moderators or ADmis start silencing or banning people.

It is becoming a toxic snowball that grows with each answer.

It is just a tip. I want the discussions of the stone shovel to come back (I was laughing at this haha) or when they added mods for the vehicles

 

Gracias / Thanks

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16 minutes ago, rubens9311 said:

 

Moderators or ADmis start silencing or banning people.

It is becoming a toxic snowball that grows with each answer.

It is just a tip. I want the discussions of the stone shovel to come back (I was laughing at this haha) or when they added mods for the vehicles

 

Gracias / Thanks

lvl 6 stone shovel beats a lvl 1-2 iron shovel no prob..

I have a grave digger mod in my stone shovel, but will take it out and compare just to be sure.

but just straight pretty sure it beats a lvl 1 iron hands down.

And why would you want to silence people?

just because?

Nobody should ever silence someone because they have a dissenting opinion.

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Just now, Demandred1957 said:

lvl 6 stone shovel beats a lvl 1-2 iron shovel no prob..

I have a grave digger mod in my stone shovel, but will take it out and compare just to be sure.

but just straight pretty sure it beats a lvl 1 iron hands down.

i actually waited till i found a level 5 iron shovel before i abandoned my lvl 6 stone shovel, the stamina trade off wasn't worth it, the mods made the stone shovel a god tier tool almost for digging loose dirt.

 

im going to do a test for fun, take a stone ax to break ore cause i got all the miner books now, and if im one shotting with a stone ax, my mining will become hilarious

 

im also marking on my map when stable hits all the working vending machines, since they still give food and taking a day to hit them all up for food after trader questing or treasure mapping lol

 

and i know the permadeath stuff, i was just thinking of one where you can continue, but at a severe disadvantage given day of death and your gameday doesnt reset

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1 minute ago, Phoenixshade35 said:

i actually waited till i found a level 5 iron shovel before i abandoned my lvl 6 stone shovel, the stamina trade off wasn't worth it, the mods made the stone shovel a god tier tool almost for digging loose dirt.

 

im going to do a test for fun, take a stone ax to break ore cause i got all the miner books now, and if im one shotting with a stone ax, my mining will become hilarious

 

im also marking on my map when stable hits all the working vending machines, since they still give food and taking a day to hit them all up for food after trader questing or treasure mapping lol

 

and i know the permadeath stuff, i was just thinking of one where you can continue, but at a severe disadvantage given day of death and your gameday doesnt reset

yeah, I tried the lvl 1 iron I found for a hot second... the stamina trade off and needing a repair kit didn't seem like a good trade to me either.

not to mention at GS lvl 30 I still find lvl 6 stone stuff which seems to out perform most iron tools with just a piece of stone to repair.

The balance just seems to have gone off the rails..

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36 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

Yeah, air drops every 3 days and marked on map. forgot about that bit of help... And yep, loot everything I come across like mailboxes etc. I just avoid the "high value" poi's like crack a book and shotgun messiah, even though they are just down the street from me.

 

 

Okay, you must have the worst RNG luck ever.  I haven't even completed day one, and I've only looted 2 small houses, but mostly trash piles and such on the way to the trader for the starter quests, and I already have all of this: (plus after taking that screen shot and walking back to base I also found the schem for shotgun turret and armor pockets.

 

 

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ya, even with level 2 sex rex iron doesn't feel worth it, even with coffee or mega crush, steel feels right for the stamina drain but iron i do agree feels harsh, with level 3 sex rex and the ergonomic grip makes a big difference.

 

Speaking of similarites or odd things needing balance, when i used the ratchet over the wrench i didnt notice any difference, maybe in damage but no real gains, the impact driver i noticed a world of difference for sure

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Just now, Pegasus said:

Okay, you must have the worst RNG luck ever.  I haven't even completed day one, and I've only looted 2 small houses, but mostly trash piles and such on the way to the trader for the starter quests, and I already have all of this: (plus after taking that screen shot and walking back to base I also found the schem for shotgun turret and armor pockets.

 

 

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...yeah, game life follows my real life... "if not for bad luck, Wouldn't have no luck at all" credit Hee Haw..

2 minutes ago, Phoenixshade35 said:

ya, even with level 2 sex rex iron doesn't feel worth it, even with coffee or mega crush, steel feels right for the stamina drain but iron i do agree feels harsh, with level 3 sex rex and the ergonomic grip makes a big difference.

 

Speaking of similarites or odd things needing balance, when i used the ratchet over the wrench i didnt notice any difference, maybe in damage but no real gains, the impact driver i noticed a world of difference for sure

* sad noises* still havent found either of those things on day 16.. Still cherishing my lvl 2 wrench I found.. *sob*

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oh i had a lucky horseshoe up my @%$*#! my first week, found the impact driver schematic day 2. though i did manage to find looter goggles so with now 3 lucky looter and a +4 looting bonus from the goggles it helped a fair bit to be sure

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7 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

...yeah, game life follows my real life... "if not for bad luck, Wouldn't have no luck at all" credit Hee Haw..

* sad noises* still havent found either of those things on day 16.. Still cherishing my lvl 2 wrench I found.. *sob*

LOL  maybe you should consider, since you're playing with so many other higher restrictions, upping the loot rate just a tad?  For your own sanity? Since apparently you are the subject of some weird gypsy curse preventing you from finding anything on your current settings? The game is supposed to be mostly fun with some frustration ... not mostly frustration with some fun.

 

Just a suggestion, not a commentary on your play style.  Apparently I haven't quite used up all of my helpful yet today.  You, of course, don't have to take the suggestion at all.

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Just now, Pegasus said:

LOL  maybe you should consider, since you're playing with so many other higher restrictions, upping the loot rate just a tad?  For your own sanity? Since apparently you are the subject of some weird gypsy curse preventing you from finding anything on your current settings? The game is supposed to be mostly fun with some frustration ... not mostly frustration with some fun.

 

Just a suggestion, not a commentary on your play style.  Apparently I haven't quite used up all of my helpful yet today.  You, of course, don't have to take the suggestion at all.

man, you nailed it for how i feel.. Mostly frustration (with stupid OP everything) with some fun..

I kinda want to up my loot etc, but it just makes me feel so....dirty.

Loot respawn @ 15 days is about all I can stand right now.

I guess I need to stop watching and comparing my play to Glock9, since that pr$ck can survive anything with a sharp rock and a pointy stick..

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Yeah I pretty much only use stone tools all game, sometimes as my main weapon lel. 

 

Although I usually use an iron or steel axe for melee now when I can, cause it is worth for combat. 

 

Basically everything I have been using can be seen in this screenshot.  Have not even found a tier 6 stone axe yet. 

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5 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

man, you nailed it for how i feel.. Mostly frustration (with stupid OP everything) with some fun..

I kinda want to up my loot etc, but it just makes me feel so....dirty.

Loot respawn @ 15 days is about all I can stand right now.

I guess I need to stop watching and comparing my play to Glock9, since that pr$ck can survive anything with a sharp rock and a pointy stick..

I used to try to play like everyone else ... but it just frustrated me.  I play this game to have fun.  That's why I almost always play on a modded server ... I like to have the things that make my game easier for me (because I'm spastic and about as coordinated as a drunken one legged squirrel on roller skates in an earthquake) and don't worry about what other people are doing with their play styles.  

 

If it makes you happy, then do it.  Why torture yourself trying to do something just because someone else does it that way?  That's my favorite thing about this game ... the freedom to do pretty much anything you want (because, let's be honest ... it's certainly not the zombies.  They give me nightmares). If it's not available in the vanilla game, there's probably a mod out there for whatever it is. Heck, there's a mod out there that creates zombie pinup art (really kind of pretty and artsy).  There are so many creative and talented people making mods and additions to the game, there's really no reason to be frustrated by something like this.

 

You don't have to play your game the same way I do, or Glock9 (whoever that is ... for a long time I thought you were talking about the gun and i was picturing a base built like a handgun) plays or anyone else plays.  Play like YOU play ... whatever makes you happy.  

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