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19 minutes ago, FileMachete said:

While I've no idea how much work it takes to do any of this, I keep thinking that there are a number of different Bear specie, and while they vary in size significantly, their general appearance, other than color, is quite similar.

 

So what if there were Black Bears, Brown Bears (what's in game) & Polar Bears. Maybe even Cubs.

 

Green Forest mostly Black Bears. Roughly half the size of Brown Bears. Could ramp difficulty with 'mother and her cubs', or mix in more Browns.

 

Snow would get Polar bears of course.

 

Wasteland has Zombie bears.

 

Possibly Zombie Black bears for Burnt Forest, and maybe a lighter pelt on those for the Desert? "Blonde" Black bears are a real thing and that'd let them blend into the desert, similar to the Cougar.

 

Just thinking that, maybe, this wouldn't be weeks of work, and it would seem to support the future intent of making the tougher biomes tougher, and add some variance to animal dangers.

 

Edit: having smaller Black bears (or cubs) might mean they could fit through normal doors, so would increase their danger lvl, even if they might have less HPs.

I love it when realism trumps feature requests. Uh no Arizona does not have polar bears, and computers do not have 100 gig video cards yet so we can't add stuff forever. We're lucky to have what we have, and we're not getting any new animals except maybe a dire wolf model.

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9 minutes ago, MechanicalLens said:

I was talking about a glitch (not sure it's been fixed) with military stealth gloves; when they are equipped, your hands become invisible. Now imagine if, hypothetically, the whole set was bugged like that. In other words, I was making a joke. 😛

OH ok. I fixed those today actually.

4 minutes ago, Laynie said:

We dropped a molotov through it, but it was hit and miss lol. You need good aim. Toban is going to try the nades now...

Nades should work just fine. What I hate is how bouncy they are off of flesh sometimes they deflect off the zombie by a large margin and you waste the grenade, so the impact grenades are probably best.

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4 hours ago, madmole said:

Can everyone take their toxic little arguments down about 300%. Thank you.

 

Laz and Toban carry on with nice creative works that inspire us to do something constructive in our personal apocalypses.

Don't be counting out me yet, I've got some plans under my sleeves waiting to be hatched... once stable hits, of course. :)

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9 minutes ago, madmole said:

Can you drop molotovs and nades through those?

Nades easily, very easy actually. Molotovs will go through, but...not so easy haha. Without godmode I'd say you'd kill yourself. If I take my time I can line it up pretty well, but on horde night I doubt you'd want to take 10 seconds to line up the shot lol 

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1 minute ago, Toban said:

Nades easily, very easy actually. Molotovs will go through, but...not so easy haha. Without godmode I'd say you'd kill yourself. If I take my time I can line it up pretty well, but on horde night I doubt you'd want to take 10 seconds to line up the shot lol 

i think you can uses iron/wood Bars to throw Molotovs without getting Burned! 

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1 minute ago, Adam the Waster said:

i think you can uses iron/wood Bars to throw Molotovs without getting Burned! 

We tried through wooden bars... Well I tried... I set Toban on fire LMFAO 🤣🔥

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9 minutes ago, madmole said:

OH ok. I fixed those today actually.

Nades should work just fine. What I hate is how bouncy they are off of flesh sometimes they deflect off the zombie by a large margin and you waste the grenade, so the impact grenades are probably best.

 

Sooooo .... if you fixed it today that means you're releasing a new version like right now so I can spend my weekend playing, right? 

 

(Yes, I'm being silly ... I know it's probably not happening ... but I've had a crap day altogether so I feel a little silliness is good ... no need to quote me and tell me I'm an idiot.)

2 minutes ago, Laynie said:

We tried through wooden bars... Well I tried... I set Toban on fire LMFAO 🤣🔥

 Uhhuh, plausible deniability.  I'm SURE that was a total accident.  That's your story and you're sticking to it.  :D

 

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Sooooo .... if you fixed it today that means you're releasing a new version like right now so I can spend my weekend playing, right? 

 

(Yes, I'm being silly ... I know it's probably not happening ... but I've had a crap day altogether so I feel a little silliness is good ... no need to quote me and tell me I'm an idiot.)

 Uhhuh, plausible deniability.  I'm SURE that was a total accident.  That's your story and you're sticking to it.  :D

 

LMAO we caught it on video, I wish it hadnt been an accident 😛 🔥😈 I had 4 or 6 and he had 20. I dropped my first one and set us both on fire lol. When the horde night was over i decided to try kill him... I dropped all my Mol's and he first aid kitted himself like a chicken 😛 Then he got me with his 20. It was cool, I allowed him to kill me hehe

9 minutes ago, Adam the Waster said:

i swear that was a thing from A18! 

 

 

i guess i am inhaling to many spores i guess 

Maybe I just did it wrong. I didnt try it more than the once. One BBQ Lee is enough for one Horde night 😛

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9 minutes ago, madmole said:

I love it when realism trumps feature requests. Uh no Arizona does not have polar bears, and computers do not have 100 gig video cards yet so we can't add stuff forever. We're lucky to have what we have, and we're not getting any new animals except maybe a dire wolf model.

Okay. I didn't realize that scaling a model to two distinct sizes resulted in them being two completely seperate entities as far as the memory useage went. Or that fur color would do the same.

 

And yep, no Polar Bears in Arizona other than maybe a zoo or two.

According to Arizona Game & Fish Departments site only black bears are found in AZ.

https://www.azgfd.com/wildlife/livingwith/bears/

 

"

  • Fur color varies, including black, brown, cinnamon, and dark blond
  • Weighs 125-400 pounds with males being larger than females
  • 3 to 3 ½ feet tall when on all four feet
  • 4 ½ to 6 ¼ feet long

"

I get that with only two models (z, not-z) in-game bears need to be much larger than this, for gameplay. And I honestly didn't think scaling or coloring a model essentially meant a full new model. I thought it would be much cheaper memory wise.

And having a polar bear would be on the gameplay side vs. reality.

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16 minutes ago, Adam the Waster said:

i think you can uses iron/wood Bars to throw Molotovs without getting Burned! 

Please don't tell Laynie that. She's already nearly killed me two or three times with them lol

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For what reason is there no deterioration in the quality of the item after repair?

 

Why is this done? this makes the item eternal in the presence of repair whales.

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1 hour ago, madmole said:

What changes? From what I've read everyone loves A19. Any drastic changes are long behind us. People who like 18 love 19, am I right?

 

No, as a matter of fact, as a paying customer of yours, no I do not like everything you have done.

Crazy buffs to the animals..nope.

Magic swarms of vultures if I try to get away to regroup, or avoid the horde cause i'm more into light adventure and building..nope.

Improved graphics with a crippling FPS loss... maybe. But only cause you are working on it.

making looting/raiding pointless until you hit GS 30+ because all your going to get is blunderbusses and paper..Nope!

Why do you have to make so many "rules" for this game..

Frankly I was quite happy with 18.2

That's why I >bought< it.

I am not into the every moment is a harsh screaming fight to survive thing that it's turning into..

That's what you should tie the difficulty slider to.

On "default" I should be able to survive forever if I play smart, and don't make too many mistakes.. (minecraft crowd rep!)

On each "harder" setting, add more of your broken vulture swarms, literal tanks of wildlife etc..

I really get depressed with each "update" so I can see how much farther away from the game that I bought has strayed from the reasons I bought it...

Sorry if I am not "eloquent" or maybe just a low i.q. jerk, but that's how I feel since you asked...

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

I am not into the every moment is a harsh screaming fight to survive thing that it's turning into..

By 19.2 you’ll be accustomed to the changes and the game will seem as easy as ever. No harsh screaming. No fight to survive. Just easy street all the way. 
 

When A20 hits with its changes you may be uncomfortable with some of them and proclaim A19.4 as almost perfect and wonder why the devs didn’t just polish that up and call it the game....

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21 minutes ago, gizmomelb said:

what was updated in the recent 100MB or so patch?

Da heck you talking about?

 

did you get it today?

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@madmole

 

 

i was wondering How the "pipe rifle" would work!

 

Sense it a Tier 0 weapon my question is about ammo! not the bullets but the Mag/Clip! would it have more ammo then a hunting Rifle? or would it have more!

 

because that would seam odd that a Makeshift Rifle would have a higher ammo count then a Old Hunting rifle.

 

(don't ask why i think of these things please)

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43 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

 

No, as a matter of fact, as a paying customer of yours, no I do not like everything you have done.

Crazy buffs to the animals..nope.

Magic swarms of vultures if I try to get away to regroup, or avoid the horde cause i'm more into light adventure and building..nope.

Improved graphics with a crippling FPS loss... maybe. But only cause you are working on it.

making looting/raiding pointless until you hit GS 30+ because all your going to get is blunderbusses and paper..Nope!

Why do you have to make so many "rules" for this game..

Frankly I was quite happy with 18.2

That's why I >bought< it.

I am not into the every moment is a harsh screaming fight to survive thing that it's turning into..

That's what you should tie the difficulty slider to.

On "default" I should be able to survive forever if I play smart, and don't make too many mistakes.. (minecraft crowd rep!)

On each "harder" setting, add more of your broken vulture swarms, literal tanks of wildlife etc..

I really get depressed with each "update" so I can see how much farther away from the game that I bought has strayed from the reasons I bought it...

Sorry if I am not "eloquent" or maybe just a low i.q. jerk, but that's how I feel since you asked...

 

 

You know you can play even alpha 10?

Not many games out there let you play 6 years of versions.

Pick what you like, and mod bears to be weak as chickens.

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47 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

 

No, as a matter of fact, as a paying customer of yours, no I do not like everything you have done.

Crazy buffs to the animals..nope.

Magic swarms of vultures if I try to get away to regroup, or avoid the horde cause i'm more into light adventure and building..nope.

Improved graphics with a crippling FPS loss... maybe. But only cause you are working on it.

making looting/raiding pointless until you hit GS 30+ because all your going to get is blunderbusses and paper..Nope!

Why do you have to make so many "rules" for this game..

Frankly I was quite happy with 18.2

That's why I >bought< it.

I am not into the every moment is a harsh screaming fight to survive thing that it's turning into..

That's what you should tie the difficulty slider to.

On "default" I should be able to survive forever if I play smart, and don't make too many mistakes.. (minecraft crowd rep!)

On each "harder" setting, add more of your broken vulture swarms, literal tanks of wildlife etc..

I really get depressed with each "update" so I can see how much farther away from the game that I bought has strayed from the reasons I bought it...

Sorry if I am not "eloquent" or maybe just a low i.q. jerk, but that's how I feel since you asked...

 

 

I'm not seeing the issues the same as you, i dont mind the changes they have brought and i only started on a15, finding the loot is not that big of an issue, i just keep killing and clearing, raise my lucky looter and see what happens, i usually find a toilet pistol by day 3, usually when i take the time and break into a gun safe i get enough parts i could end up crafting a better gun than i find, all this negativity is not going to help matters at all and they are working towards their original vision which i cannot wait to see come to light, i also wanna be one of the first to play the next game they decide to start, this is a company that does listen, but each post you have made for the most part is so negative, why?

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59 minutes ago, Demandred1957 said:

 

No, as a matter of fact, as a paying customer of yours, no I do not like everything you have done.

Crazy buffs to the animals..nope.

Magic swarms of vultures if I try to get away to regroup, or avoid the horde cause i'm more into light adventure and building..nope.

Improved graphics with a crippling FPS loss... maybe. But only cause you are working on it.

making looting/raiding pointless until you hit GS 30+ because all your going to get is blunderbusses and paper..Nope!

Why do you have to make so many "rules" for this game..

Frankly I was quite happy with 18.2

That's why I >bought< it.

I am not into the every moment is a harsh screaming fight to survive thing that it's turning into..

That's what you should tie the difficulty slider to.

On "default" I should be able to survive forever if I play smart, and don't make too many mistakes.. (minecraft crowd rep!)

On each "harder" setting, add more of your broken vulture swarms, literal tanks of wildlife etc..

I really get depressed with each "update" so I can see how much farther away from the game that I bought has strayed from the reasons I bought it...

Sorry if I am not "eloquent" or maybe just a low i.q. jerk, but that's how I feel since you asked...

 

 

You may not know this, but you can actually go back to a previous version.  If you loved 18.2 you can go back and play it, you don't have to deal with the new changes at all.

 

Simply right click the game in your steam library, just like you are going to Opt into the Beta.  Make sure you have auto update turned off.  Then go to the Beta tab, and select 18.2 from the drop down.

 

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27 minutes ago, Roland said:

By 19.2 you’ll be accustomed to the changes and the game will seem as easy as ever. No harsh screaming. No fight to survive. Just easy street all the way. 
 

When A20 hits with its changes you may be uncomfortable with some of them and proclaim A19.4 as almost perfect and wonder why the devs didn’t just polish that up and call it the game....

yeah, no dude. I will leave that to all you squeaky wheels.

Whats so hard to understand about tying all the hardcore jazz to the slider?

Frankly I do not want stupid swarms of OP vultures,

Or bears that are as armored as a literal tank.

I like to build stuff, and have a adventure where I am in danger, but using my smart living human brains, I can beat the mobs of stupid undead zoms.

 

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13 minutes ago, Vechs said:

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I like the new stealth technology on the military gloves, my hands are totally invisible with them! :)

LOL  don't like it too much, they said they fixed it already.

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