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I don't think a lot here understand what this is about.

 

The A19 dev diary is mostly about the announced features.

 

Lists upon list of things you want added? That belongs in the Pimp Dreams forum.

 

True, but some people cant resist when they have MMs attention....and then it's a domino effect...😂

 

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What about electrical, faster crafting stations for late game?

Electrical furnaces instead of forges, electrical kitchen and chem station?

Electricity is such an interesting and under developed feature it hurts...

 

Not asking for factorio here, just something more interesting to do with electricity, the garage doors alone enhanced it greatly.

 

Hopefully, the adv. Forge is still in the plans. I remember MM spitballing about it.

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@Madmole

 

Any updates on the dynamic music system? Right now it's OK, but it could be a lot more - more varied loops, different music for different situations (combat vs. wandering), etc.

 

These features were always on the roadmap, at least the last time you talked about them. I'm just wondering about how high a priority they will be.

 

(And, I still think it would be great to have it moddable, e.g. with custom .wav files initialized through the XML.)

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If you break down what a18 added behind the scenes and not just what was written down like content it was a big update worthy of the length. And other then the horrid fps issues a18 brought the game was reinvigorated.

 

Ya always gonna get a few whiners in every game. I guess I am whining to bout the short updates are stupid but the longer the update the more gets added and the more that gets added equals closer to gold. And bandits and npcs will prolly take a while year alone.

 

I guess those whom want short updates don't want bandits npcs etc lol...

 

I'm not sure how much background you have in software development, so I'll keep it simple, maybe too simple for you, sorry. Ideally shorter dev cycles won't change anything about when bandits arrive. Shorter dev cycles have some undeniable advantages and might even speed up development of everything, including bandits (because it might speed up debugging a bit).

 

This development model doesn't exclude bigger features, it just means they don't get merged with the (public) alpha until they are ready. Compare it to a train depot with more than one parallel track. Only the trains (=features) that have been finished servicing leave the depot and enter the station. Whether trains wait on other trains or leave immediately doesn't change the speed of servicing them.

 

You could hypothetize that Fataal as one of the bottlenecks because of bandits-AI, might have to add time for vehicle mods as well, but whether those vehicle mods get released in an alpha or not they will be developed in the mean time and Fataal will have to put some time in there as well. There is no big difference here. Generally the alphas we see do not dictate development enough to make a difference, it is the other way round.

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HUMMMMM - welll - have you tried the oldschool way? - URL link to Open container?

 

Maybe you can email Unity and beg them to stream texture arrays.

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Can we please get rid of microsplat for A19?

 

I was disabling it manually until SphereII made a patch to put the A17 distant terrain back. Some important points.

 

1) It allows players to do farming the 'old' way (take hoe, hoe ground) like they asked for in A18.

2) HUGE FPS gain. I mean 30-50fps when tested on my laptop (i7-4710MQ, 32GB RAM, GTX 980M), god knows how much on my desktop but I've been pegging the 165hz refresh rate of my monitor... vs sitting at 80 with occasional dips to 20.

 

In terms of graphical fidelity? I see no major difference between Microsplat on and Microsplat off.

 

Doubt that is going to happen. We already have a simplified Microsplat shader variant coming in A18.2 that gets up to x2 performance.

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I expect them at first to be just variations if the Zombie ai. They spawn out of nowhere near the base, questlocation or specific POI. Then walk towards the players location, either stopping when in range and shoot, or hack their way through blocks to the player and attack with melee weapons. Maybe run further away when hurt.

 

Done, working Bandit AI.

 

Pretty much. They will be basic at first and later be more advanced as time permits.

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Intellect might be able to craft sentry bots as their tier 3 "junk turret". Perhaps these can be pack mules with an inventory mod.

 

I see a junkturret with a motor in a shoppingcar as a sentrybot^^

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Maybe you can email Unity and beg them to stream texture arrays.

 

I read yesterday that Unity is thinking about that, but they don't know when or if they will do it.

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OMG am I the only female that plays this obsessively? Please may I have some new paint effects/ Lots of them. i want to make my house look really nice. Once I wash the zomb blood off...

No, you're not the only female playing the game and yeah, I would love having more paint textures too.

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Doubt that is going to happen. We already have a simplified Microsplat shader variant coming in A18.2 that gets up to x2 performance.

 

Any timeframe on 18.2?

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I'm not sure how much background you have in software development, so I'll keep it simple, maybe too simple for you, sorry. Ideally shorter dev cycles won't change anything about when bandits arrive. Shorter dev cycles have some undeniable advantages and might even speed up development of everything, including bandits (because it might speed up debugging a bit).

 

This development model doesn't exclude bigger features, it just means they don't get merged with the (public) alpha until they are ready. Compare it to a train depot with more than one parallel track. Only the trains (=features) that have been finished servicing leave the depot and enter the station. Whether trains wait on other trains or leave immediately doesn't change the speed of servicing them.

 

You could hypothetize that Fataal as one of the bottlenecks because of bandits-AI, might have to add time for vehicle mods as well, but whether those vehicle mods get released in an alpha or not they will be developed in the mean time and Fataal will have to put some time in there as well. There is no big difference here. Generally the alphas we see do not dictate development enough to make a difference, it is the other way round.

 

Yes. It all comes down to man hours. Tasks take the same amount of time with shorter or longer time between alphas. Shorter alphas just mean less stuff in each alpha, but with a somewhat fixed time cost in doing each release.

 

I work on a lot of different stuff these days, which is why I'm hoping our new programmer will be able to do a lot of the bandit work, but he is still part time for at least a few months.

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OMG am I the only female that plays this obsessively? Please may I have some new paint effects/ Lots of them. i want to make my house look really nice. Once I wash the zomb blood off...

 

Yes!! More color!! I want to paint everything.

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Any chance to show what crafting will give you on average?

 

Essentially, if I have a quality 5 item, and can craft a quality 5 item, I want to know if it is worth it or not. (based on if I can actually craft something with better specs.)

 

At best we could print the range of possibilities, but we can't guarantee what random roll you get. I don't see it as a big deal, just craft it and find out.

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And some say you can't make a room look good in the apocalypse.

 

 

NQLBJ0A.jpg

 

Nice.

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Any way we could get an ingame reference for what an item's base stats are? Sometimes that level 3 item you find can rival a level 5 and you don't have a reference to know it.

 

Compare will show base stats in the future, when comparing.

 

Seeing the range of numbers in item creation would help. Say I get a tier 3 weapon and can only make tier 3 weapons at the moment, when I goto craft another tier 3 weapon it would be great to see if its even worth it before I waste resources. For example:

 

Stat......................Current value.......Possible

Ranged Damage.....67......................60-80

Magazine Size........59......................55-65

Rounds / Minute.....402....................400-450

Effective Range......67......................65-75

Max Durability........560....................525-560

 

Kinda in line with what Diablo and other games do. You hover over item, hold like ALT, and it shows you the range of numbers the weapon is capable of for that tier. Knowing this before crafting would help save resources. If I have the best tier 3 weapon and I dont know it, I'll be sitting there forever wasting resources thinking I "could" make better. This is just an example, hopefully I explained my view correctly.

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No new station. Does that mean the hope for a wood stove as an upgrade to the campfire also out of picture? There is a great model for it in game already...

 

No it doesn't. Adding an alchemy set though is redundant. We already have a beaker in the campfire for primitive alchemy and a chem station for advanced alchemy.

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Can we please get rid of microsplat for A19?

 

I was disabling it manually until SphereII made a patch to put the A17 distant terrain back. Some important points.

 

1) It allows players to do farming the 'old' way (take hoe, hoe ground) like they asked for in A18.

2) HUGE FPS gain. I mean 30-50fps when tested on my laptop (i7-4710MQ, 32GB RAM, GTX 980M), god knows how much on my desktop but I've been pegging the 165hz refresh rate of my monitor... vs sitting at 80 with occasional dips to 20.

 

In terms of graphical fidelity? I see no major difference between Microsplat on and Microsplat off.

 

LOL no. Maybe you should get your eyes checked.

 

What we are doing is adding a high performance switch to change to something better than the A17 hacked terrain that has huge fps gain, but is being patched to A18 so is off topic here as well as the farming nobody wants.

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hence, working ones. I know why they were removed. I would like to see if they can make ones that dont mess up the AI. or an equivalent of an iron door with bars. one on hinges instead of a slide. one we can shoot through .

 

say 75% of the hp of an iron door, top half barred, bottom half solid.

 

Joel is an artist, I am sure he can come up with something that looks right.

 

The only thing I can think of is a swinging jail door since the sliding one has AI issues.

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The only thing I can think of is a swinging jail door since the sliding one has AI issues.

Noice! But what sound should it make?

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Added new tool art to the first post

 

 

Quick note on new tool art:

 

Iron pick should have rusty look. Steel pick should not, would not rust, right?? I'm not expert though.

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Quick note on new tool art:

 

Iron pick should have rusty look. Steel pick should not, would not rust, right?? I'm not expert though.

 

All of them rust eventually. Steel has iron, so it eventually rusts too. The better the quality the longer it takes for it to rust. If It's a static quality wall of stainless steel it could take decades for it to start showing signs of rust.

If it's a tool ... well... if pure stainless with perfect alloy percentages in a couple of years of hard use it could start showing spots. Standard grade can rust in two weeks if treated poorly and recklessly.

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RNG breakdowns on the vehicles doesn't sound like fun to me (not mention we do have it already with that 0% bug that happens every so often). I'd be ok with it if we were able to drive some of the cars we find in the wasteland, but you went down the route of only alllowing us to drive vehicles we've made or bought from traders.

 

As far as making changes to vehicles go, I'd like to see the 4x4 handle a lot more like a 4x4 in all fairness. Right now it feels like it has no springs.

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Snowtrankitas at your service, m'lord.

 

Don`t tease me with snow, man. I love winter and will even take advantage of latest faatal`s additions for some settings in 18.2 (when have time to), to see how long gonna survive in winter biome only, insane, 120min/day, SP, notnomad style.

 

#backontopicnow

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No, you're not the only female playing the game and yeah, I would love having more paint textures too.

 

Oh god the apocalypse is going to be pink lol 😜

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