Haidrgna Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 They dont have to be able to tranverse blocks the same way players do. Maybe for bandits when they come in but not all entities. Keeps things more interesting/varied imo. Zombies getting stuck is not interesting nor varied. If they cannot scale a block for some reason they should try and rage against it instead or find a different path. No shape of block should result in them gettings completely stuck in some loop, never being able to hit or get past it. But it seems Faatal is already working on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onarr Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 We don't have any plans for that, but it would be good to have more reasons to travel to other biomes. This. I would really like having more reasons to travel into other biomes aside from forest and rarely desert. There is currently no proper risk vs reward for other biomes Like for example wasteland has the best weapons, technologies etc. because bombs were targeted at strategic locations - factories, munition warehouses, research centres etc. Snow biome could have seed vaults (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalba...bal_Seed_Vault), secret bases, oil pumps (imagine siberian oil rigs). Desert biome would have scyscrapers, military bases etc. But in order for it to work, loot tables would have to be tied to location, not container (or have specific containers only at specific locations) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfbain5 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 This. I would really like having more reasons to travel into other biomes aside from forest and rarely desert. There is currently no proper risk vs reward for other biomes Like for example wasteland has the best weapons, technologies etc. because bombs were targeted at strategic locations - factories, munition warehouses, research centres etc. Snow biome could have seed vaults (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalba...bal_Seed_Vault), secret bases, oil pumps (imagine siberian oil rigs). Desert biome would have scyscrapers, military bases etc. But in order for it to work, loot tables would have to be tied to location, not container (or have specific containers only at specific locations) hmmm, location based boss boxes would be a welcomed change, and they can be levelled quite easily. mostly just xml edits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrton Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Madmole or Faatal, do we have any news of the bandits? The last time we knew something was in A15 in a Madmole video, is it something discarded for A19? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damocles Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Madmole or Faatal, do we have any news of the bandits? The last time we knew something was in A15 in a Madmole video, is it something discarded for A19? I think they could add some kind of basic bandits relatively quickly. (using the zombie AI, and giving some them guns, other models and sounds). But that might be not exciting enough - and rather take longer to have more a sophisticated bandit implementation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace312 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 I remember reading a post awhile back, where mm said that NPCs were after A18. But that could be any alpha after that I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Zombies getting stuck is not interesting nor varied. If they cannot scale a block for some reason they should try and rage against it instead or find a different path. No shape of block should result in them gettings completely stuck in some loop, never being able to hit or get past it. But it seems Faatal is already working on this. Agreed, I also think they shouldnt just get stuck infinitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungryZombie Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Indeed it does snow in the desert. But the snow biome is like snow-capped mountains, alpine lands or some kind of tundra right? There is no sand underneath the thick layer of snow either. If there actually were a snow covered desert biome or at least a blend biome where the two biomes would meet sure. But otherwise you will keep getting this comments over and over. I am hoping some kind of biome blends are on the roadmap, so that there can always be a nice transition between two biomes where there is a biome that shares traits with both biomes (like snow covered desert between snow and desert, plains between desert and forest etc). I live in Arizona amid the cactus. About 90 minutes north is flagstaff. Mountainous terrain that gets snow covered in winter. After a nuclear winter it would be much worse I'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 Madmole, Some feedback for turrets. What do you think of a "target flyers only" in the interface? Might be useful so you could conserve ammo for flyers, but I would think you could probably pull that off by making them mounted in an opaque box at roof level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 Madmole or Faatal, do we have any news of the bandits? The last time we knew something was in A15 in a Madmole video, is it something discarded for A19? Was never on the 19 roadmap, so it was never discarded. Take a look at the first post to see what we're planning for A19. Art has done some work on bandits, but right now we're putting guys on the zombie art like the new hd boe I showed. Bandits will come in A20 or 21, etc. We've hired two new programmers, and the art staff is about 7 now, counting two sub contractors so I think we're poised now to get them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 I think they could add some kind of basic bandits relatively quickly. (using the zombie AI, and giving some them guns, other models and sounds). But that might be not exciting enough - and rather take longer to have more a sophisticated bandit implementation. We're only adding shippable content now, no temp or wip stuff. So when bandits arrive they will be awesome, aside from final tuning and balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam the Waster Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Was never on the 19 roadmap, so it was never discarded. Take a look at the first post to see what we're planning for A19. Art has done some work on bandits, but right now we're putting guys on the zombie art like the new hd boe I showed. Bandits will come in A20 or 21, etc. We've hired two new programmers, and the art staff is about 7 now, counting two sub contractors so I think we're poised now to get them in. sweet but i thought the "infected survivor" was Joe Too many Oe's Moe, joe , joel , boe i need grog now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrton Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Was never on the 19 roadmap, so it was never discarded. Take a look at the first post to see what we're planning for A19. Art has done some work on bandits, but right now we're putting guys on the zombie art like the new hd boe I showed. Bandits will come in A20 or 21, etc. We've hired two new programmers, and the art staff is about 7 now, counting two sub contractors so I think we're poised now to get them in. Thank you very much for the clarification, I can't wait to see the new bandits, I love that they have more new people, the family stops and we like that, keep up the good work guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranzera Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 What are the other 2 tiers of the stun baton going to be? The first post says all weapons will have 3 tiers in A19 but I haven't heard anything about the baton yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickWolf Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 What are the other 2 tiers of the stun baton going to be? The first post says all weapons will have 3 tiers in A19 but I haven't heard anything about the baton yet. Taser gun as tier 1 12V battery with 2 wires for tier 3 XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganoth Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 What are the other 2 tiers of the stun baton going to be? The first post says all weapons will have 3 tiers in A19 but I haven't heard anything about the baton yet. caress baton -> stun baton -> wooden club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdubyah Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Stun baton is INT, right? That means it's stun baton, junk sledge, junk turret. Wait, no. Forgot about the drone. Hmm. Not sure then. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerfly Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 12V battery with 2 wires for tier 3 XD Poke the demolisher in the eyes with that and you get instant defuse. But only on horde nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankitas Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Hand tazer > Stun baton > Tazer gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Stun Baton < Cattle Prod < Goa'uld Pain Stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDog1942 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Stun Baton < Cattle Prod < Goa'uld Pain Stick We need a new Stargate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerfly Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 We need a new Stargate But by Kubrick and Tarantino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Stun Baton < Cattle Prod < Goa'uld Pain Stick For Int Melee: sharp stick (reintroduced lol) > Blunderbuss (redesigned for max range of 2) > Stun Baton For Int Range: Junk Sledge > Junk Turret > Junk Drone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 For Int Melee: sharp stick (reintroduced lol) > Blunderbuss (redesigned for max range of 2) > Stun Baton For Int Range: Junk Sledge > Junk Turret > Junk Drone orrrrr... Melee: sharp stick > Stun Baton > Junk Sledge Range: Blunderbuss > Junk Turret > Junk Drone The blunderbuss would fit perfect under the INT tree imo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haidrgna Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 I live in Arizona amid the cactus. About 90 minutes north is flagstaff. Mountainous terrain that gets snow covered in winter. After a nuclear winter it would be much worse I'd imagine. 90 Minutes? Is that not still quite far apart then, not really a good measure of distance but lets say 100 km/h that means at least 150 km away, so in game that would be, assuming 8k maps which means its almost 19 maps apart. Not to mention it is only snow covered in winter not the whole year round. Not really my intention to nitpick on your actual situation, but if that were in the game it would be plausible with those distances and temps. But the current depiction of the snow biome in the game is a year round snow covered land where it almost always freezes, and the desert is a super hot desert where the sun always burns and even during the nights it does not cool down as much. If there would be seasons or snow deserts, plausible weather it would be much better, but right now those 2 biomes are each other's opposites climatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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