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3 hours ago, Naz said:

Thank you but Although i'll lose points with you saying this, i'm a nerdpoler XD I think it's gotten a bad rap from people exploiting it, nerdpoling up to the roof to the loot etc, i'm not one of those types. I use it because it's more convenient than finding where the stairs are and it doesn't waste time and wood compared to ladders since you can pick it up and reuse it. I was in a poi today for example, the floor had those damaged concrete blocks and zombies had fallen in the hole and made a 1x2 hole in there, i fell in rofl. So the situation was i could either waste wood on a ladder i would only use once, spend an early game point on parkour to get out, not an option when you need as much Survivability and damage output as possible at that difficulty, maybe later on i could spare some but not early game. Or i could dig myself out the old fashioned way, given i had stone tools and it was concrete, it's not really an option. So frames in that case were justified in that situation in my option.

See I don't see this as a waste and I've got wood to spare, 1 point into motherload and you can get 6000 wood with a quality two axe easy. I put the fire on when I'm sitting at my base at night when its to dangerous to go out so if people are still watching at least they can watch the fire with me. So I build ladder in those scenarios and in the TFP death trap scenarios. When I build my base day 5 or 6 night I did it without nerd polling just making the wall into steps till I was done. This last video I screwed up making the cage and didn't realize till I got down so I made a scaffold to get back up, three blocks standing with a ladder on the side. To me its not a waste cause its serving a purpose.

 

3 hours ago, Naz said:

You're not alone on that one, if it makes you feel better everyone gets frustrated at times even the devs get frustrated that zyx feature isn't currently possible due to reason xyz. Sometimes it is possible but the devs have only so much time and they have to decide what feature will benefit the most players to justify the time to develop. The best thing we can do in these situations is provide clear evidence like a short to the point video showing what is possible then a logical and detailed explanation on my it would be better for the game to have. However there is always the chance that it will just never happen despite all that and unfortunately thats just the nature of early access. I know MM says this a lot but he is right when he says if it's not planned for vanilla, mod it. It's maybe not always as simple as that, there may not be a mod doing the thing you want and if your just looking at xpath for the first time it can be pretty intimidating, but it doesn't take too long before you can tweak the game to be what you want it to be. 

I've looked into this for anti nerd polling, it is possible but sphereii's mods are not EAC friendly which means turning it off and once I do that all legitimacy is out the window, who can say what mods I'm using. They are interesting though, if I ever get to the point I wanted to do a server.

 

3 hours ago, Naz said:

I think exploits will get looked into more as it gets closer to beta, once all the content and features are in they will likely focus on balance like that. I really don't think they're trying to spite you, they want the game to do well as much as you or me do, i think at worst they won't respond because they'd like it to be the way you want but they can't due to time,technical reasons etc. They want too be able to say yes to everyone but sometimes they just can't fortunately.

I hope so.

2 hours ago, madmole said:

If something takes 10 hours in real time to build I wouldn't rush to call that an exploit. I can build a 10x10 steel box faster than that, and be 100% safe sitting afk, so I don't see huge issues or the need to go out of our way to stifle creativity of players. Obviously if something is very easy to build and super effective we will try our best to solve it. Everything should work, just not 100% and stuff that does work well should require maintenance.

its the fact they can put those 10 hours in and just stop, they just defeated your hordes with minimal effort and don't have to do anymore. I don't stop the way I play, there are always improvements that can be done. That way is shortening the game and you guys have been putting alot of effort into lengthening it. You could build a 10x10 and chill but thats not going to last forever, these designs I criticize do.

STyK_

STyK_

1 hour ago, Naz said:

Thank you but Although i'll lose points with you saying this, i'm a nerdpoler XD I think it's gotten a bad rap from people exploiting it, nerdpoling up to the roof to the loot etc, i'm not one of those types. I use it because it's more convenient than finding where the stairs are and it doesn't waste time and wood compared to ladders since you can pick it up and reuse it. I was in a poi today for example, the floor had those damaged concrete blocks and zombies had fallen in the hole and made a 1x2 hole in there, i fell in rofl. So the situation was i could either waste wood on a ladder i would only use once, spend an early game point on parkour to get out, not an option when you need as much Survivability and damage output as possible at that difficulty, maybe later on i could spare some but not early game. Or i could dig myself out the old fashioned way, given i had stone tools and it was concrete, it's not really an option. So frames in that case were justified in that situation in my option.

See I don't see this as a waste and I've got wood to spare, 1 point into motherload and you can get 6000 wood with a quality two axe easy. I put the fire on when I'm sitting at my base at night when its to dangerous to go out so if people are still watching at least they can watch the fire with me. So I build ladder in those scenarios and in the TFP death trap scenarios. When I build my base day 5 or 6 night I did it without nerd polling just making the wall into steps till I was done. This last video I screwed up making the cage and didn't realize till I got down so I made a scaffold to get back up, three blocks standing with a ladder on the side. To me its not a waste cause its serving a purpose.

 

1 hour ago, Naz said:

You're not alone on that one, if it makes you feel better everyone gets frustrated at times even the devs get frustrated that zyx feature isn't currently possible due to reason xyz. Sometimes it is possible but the devs have only so much time and they have to decide what feature will benefit the most players to justify the time to develop. The best thing we can do in these situations is provide clear evidence like a short to the point video showing what is possible then a logical and detailed explanation on my it would be better for the game to have. However there is always the chance that it will just never happen despite all that and unfortunately thats just the nature of early access. I know MM says this a lot but he is right when he says if it's not planned for vanilla, mod it. It's maybe not always as simple as that, there may not be a mod doing the thing you want and if your just looking at xpath for the first time it can be pretty intimidating, but it doesn't take too long before you can tweak the game to be what you want it to be. 

I've looked into this for anti nerd polling, it is possible but sphereii's mods are not EAC friendly which means turning it off and once I do that all legitimacy is out the window, who can say what mods I'm using. They are interesting though, if I ever get to the point I wanted to do a server.

 

1 hour ago, Naz said:

I think exploits will get looked into more as it gets closer to beta, once all the content and features are in they will likely focus on balance like that. I really don't think they're trying to spite you, they want the game to do well as much as you or me do, i think at worst they won't respond because they'd like it to be the way you want but they can't due to time,technical reasons etc. They want too be able to say yes to everyone but sometimes they just can't fortunately.

I hope so.

1 hour ago, madmole said:

If something takes 10 hours in real time to build I wouldn't rush to call that an exploit. I can build a 10x10 steel box faster than that, and be 100% safe sitting afk, so I don't see huge issues or the need to go out of our way to stifle creativity of players. Obviously if something is very easy to build and super effective we will try our best to solve it. Everything should work, just not 100% and stuff that does work well should require maintenance.

its the fact they can put those 10 hours in and just stop, they just defeated your hordes with minimal effort and don't have to do anymore. I don't stop the way I play, there are always improvements that can be done. That way is shortening the game and you guys have been putting alot of effort into lengthening it. You could build a 10x10 and chill but that not going to last forever, this designs I criticize do.

STyK_

STyK_

1 hour ago, Naz said:

Thank you but Although i'll lose points with you saying this, i'm a nerdpoler XD I think it's gotten a bad rap from people exploiting it, nerdpoling up to the roof to the loot etc, i'm not one of those types. I use it because it's more convenient than finding where the stairs are and it doesn't waste time and wood compared to ladders since you can pick it up and reuse it. I was in a poi today for example, the floor had those damaged concrete blocks and zombies had fallen in the hole and made a 1x2 hole in there, i fell in rofl. So the situation was i could either waste wood on a ladder i would only use once, spend an early game point on parkour to get out, not an option when you need as much Survivability and damage output as possible at that difficulty, maybe later on i could spare some but not early game. Or i could dig myself out the old fashioned way, given i had stone tools and it was concrete, it's not really an option. So frames in that case were justified in that situation in my option.

See I don't see this as a waste and I've got wood to spare, 1 point into motherload and you can get 6000 wood with a quality two axe easy. I put the fire on when I'm sitting at my base at night when its to dangerous to go out so if people are still watching at least they can watch the fire with me. So I build ladder in those scenarios and in the TFP death trap scenarios. When I build my base day 5 or 6 night I did it without nerd polling just making the wall into steps till I was done. This last video I screwed up making the cage and didn't realize till I got down so I made a scaffold to get back up, three blocks standing with a ladder on the side. To me its not a waste cause its serving a purpose.

 

1 hour ago, Naz said:

You're not alone on that one, if it makes you feel better everyone gets frustrated at times even the devs get frustrated that zyx feature isn't currently possible due to reason xyz. Sometimes it is possible but the devs have only so much time and they have to decide what feature will benefit the most players to justify the time to develop. The best thing we can do in these situations is provide clear evidence like a short to the point video showing what is possible then a logical and detailed explanation on my it would be better for the game to have. However there is always the chance that it will just never happen despite all that and unfortunately thats just the nature of early access. I know MM says this a lot but he is right when he says if it's not planned for vanilla, mod it. It's maybe not always as simple as that, there may not be a mod doing the thing you want and if your just looking at xpath for the first time it can be pretty intimidating, but it doesn't take too long before you can tweak the game to be what you want it to be. 

I've looked into, it is possible but sphereii's mods are not EAC friendly which means turning it off and once I do that all legitimacy is out the window, who can say what mods I'm using. They are interesting though, if I ever get to the point I wanted to do a server.

 

1 hour ago, Naz said:

I think exploits will get looked into more as it gets closer to beta, once all the content and features are in they will likely focus on balance like that. I really don't think they're trying to spite you, they want the game to do well as much as you or me do, i think at worst they won't respond because they'd like it to be the way you want but they can't due to time,technical reasons etc. They want too be able to say yes to everyone but sometimes they just can't fortunately.

I hope so.

1 hour ago, madmole said:

If something takes 10 hours in real time to build I wouldn't rush to call that an exploit. I can build a 10x10 steel box faster than that, and be 100% safe sitting afk, so I don't see huge issues or the need to go out of our way to stifle creativity of players. Obviously if something is very easy to build and super effective we will try our best to solve it. Everything should work, just not 100% and stuff that does work well should require maintenance.

its the fact they can put those 10 hours in and just stop, they just defeated your hordes with minimal effort and don't have to do anymore. I don't stop the way I play, there are always improvements that can be done. That way is shortening the game and you guys have been putting alot of effort into lengthening it. You could build a 10x10 and chill but that not going to last forever, this designs I criticize do.

STyK_

STyK_

51 minutes ago, Naz said:

Thank you but Although i'll lose points with you saying this, i'm a nerdpoler XD I think it's gotten a bad rap from people exploiting it, nerdpoling up to the roof to the loot etc, i'm not one of those types. I use it because it's more convenient than finding where the stairs are and it doesn't waste time and wood compared to ladders since you can pick it up and reuse it. I was in a poi today for example, the floor had those damaged concrete blocks and zombies had fallen in the hole and made a 1x2 hole in there, i fell in rofl. So the situation was i could either waste wood on a ladder i would only use once, spend an early game point on parkour to get out, not an option when you need as much Survivability and damage output as possible at that difficulty, maybe later on i could spare some but not early game. Or i could dig myself out the old fashioned way, given i had stone tools and it was concrete, it's not really an option. So frames in that case were justified in that situation in my option.

See I don't see this as a waste and I've got wood to spare, 1 point into motherload and you can get 6000 wood with a quality two axe easy. I put the fire on when I'm sitting at my base at night when its to dangerous to go out so if people are still watching at least they can watch the fire with me. So I build ladder in those scenarios and in the TFP death trap scenarios. When I build my base day 5 or 6 night I did it without nerd polling just making the wall into steps till I was done. This last video I screwed up making the cage and didn't realize till I got down so I made a scaffold to get back up, three blocks standing with a ladder on the side. To me its not a waste cause its serving a purpose.

 

1 hour ago, Naz said:

You're not alone on that one, if it makes you feel better everyone gets frustrated at times even the devs get frustrated that zyx feature isn't currently possible due to reason xyz. Sometimes it is possible but the devs have only so much time and they have to decide what feature will benefit the most players to justify the time to develop. The best thing we can do in these situations is provide clear evidence like a short to the point video showing what is possible then a logical and detailed explanation on my it would be better for the game to have. However there is always the chance that it will just never happen despite all that and unfortunately thats just the nature of early access. I know MM says this a lot but he is right when he says if it's not planned for vanilla, mod it. It's maybe not always as simple as that, there may not be a mod doing the thing you want and if your just looking at xpath for the first time it can be pretty intimidating, but it doesn't take too long before you can tweak the game to be what you want it to be. 

I've looked into, it is possible but sphereii's mods are not EAC friendly which means turning it off and once I do that all legitimacy is out the window, who can say what mods I'm using. They are interesting though, if I ever get to the point I wanted to a server.

 

1 hour ago, Naz said:

I think exploits will get looked into more as it gets closer to beta, once all the content and features are in they will likely focus on balance like that. I really don't think they're trying to spite you, they want the game to do well as much as you or me do, i think at worst they won't respond because they'd like it to be the way you want but they can't due to time,technical reasons etc. They want too be able to say yes to everyone but sometimes they just can't fortunately.

I hope so.

45 minutes ago, madmole said:

If something takes 10 hours in real time to build I wouldn't rush to call that an exploit. I can build a 10x10 steel box faster than that, and be 100% safe sitting afk, so I don't see huge issues or the need to go out of our way to stifle creativity of players. Obviously if something is very easy to build and super effective we will try our best to solve it. Everything should work, just not 100% and stuff that does work well should require maintenance.

its the fact they can put those 10 hours in and just stop, they just defeated your hordes with minimal effort and don't have to do anymore. I don't stop the way I play, there are always improvements that can be done. That way is shortening the game and you guys have been putting alot of effort into lengthening it. You could build a 10x10 and chill but that not going to last forever, this designs I criticize do.

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