Vanishing/resetting base problem - need help

eXSe · November 18, 2019

OK, I'm going insane here because I have never had this problem until a18. As you may have gathered from the title, my bases have been vanishing on every single map I've started in a18 and I'm losing the will to play it

No matter if it's a POI base, or I've built it from scratch, parts of it just vanish (my bases) and get replaced by a random ore rock, tree stump or a birds nest, or reset (POI bases). Also, POI bases were not reset by a quest (maybe they were though if the game resets them by just appearing on the traders list, but I didn't investigate that).

If it was resetting some unimportant part of the base, like a farm, or even anything other than the most important things (storage and forges) I'd learn to live with it somehow, but losing EVERYTHING just kills me.

To be clear, I am running with mods (SMX, donovans less grind, megastacks, more and longer lootbags, also with RELXIX more traders and trader advertisment).

Anyway, any and all help would be appreciated.

AtomicUs5000 · November 18, 2019

I'm pretty sure the problem will be because of one of those mods.

If they aren't tested under A18, those would be the first to get rid of.

Donovan's 7 Days to Die Modlets: Tested under game version: alpha 17.2 (b27)

theFlu · November 18, 2019

The only issue with world stability I've experienced this far has been with the latest patch, it spawned a bunch of new trees in my world, they're at 1 hp (probably 0, but shows as 1) and give the harvest bonus on kill..

Haven't noticed anything resetting or anything, longest game has gone on since somewhere in 18(.0) exps.

ZombieSurvivor · November 18, 2019

The only issue with world stability I've experienced this far has been with the latest patch, it spawned a bunch of new trees in my world, they're at 1 hp (probably 0, but shows as 1) and give the harvest bonus on kill..

Haven't noticed anything resetting or anything, longest game has gone on since somewhere in 18(.0) exps.

I wonder if the devs know how to reproduce that. I might know of a way because I was able to make that happen back in A17.3 when I ran a server and editing the biom.xml file if I remember correctly.

theFlu · November 18, 2019

I haven't even tried, as I can't imagine it would reproduce in a within-patch world, in a "legit" way. Just something got changed in the tree generation in a patch and my save doesn't have hit point info for the new ones. Just mentioned as the only oddity I've seen in a vanilla game

ZombieSurvivor · November 18, 2019

I haven't even tried, as I can't imagine it would reproduce in a within-patch world, in a "legit" way. Just something got changed in the tree generation in a patch and my save doesn't have hit point info for the new ones. Just mentioned as the only oddity I've seen in a vanilla game

This happening following a patch would fit exactly with how to repro it. nice.

EDIT: I'm trying to remember exactly how I used to do this, I'll try later, bit I would edit bioms.xml.

Change up....(I'm really stoned)....something with how the trees spawned in all the bioms. I would then restart the server and there would be some trees that were new and only had 1hp... or maybe they all did...gotta test.

So maybe during whatever patch, the biom.xml file was edited by the devs and maybe it had to do with the trees and thus created this bug. And if a player did not start a fresh game and kept an old save then it would produce it.

eXSe · November 18, 2019

Well crap, I'll go full vanilla and see what happens.

BeeBeeBee · November 18, 2019

RELXIX more traders and trader advertisment).

Funny you mention this one, because I'm using a variant of the Trader Advertisements, called ReQuests (ReQuests) and I've been getting constant region wipes and crashes after 6 solid hours of fun. I would clear maybe 10 buried supplies quests, then as I come back to my base my screen throws errors and I lose half my game. Particularly my forge and campfire.

Parts of my log:

2019-11-18T02:07:42 21871.738 INF Time: 351.96m FPS: 75.52 Heap: 2124.7MB Max: 2309.0MB Chunks: 643 CGO: 192 Ply: 1 Zom: 2 Ent: 4 (71) Items: 0 CO: 2 RSS: 2104.3MB

2019-11-18T02:08:13 21901.753 INF Time: 352.46m FPS: 57.84 Heap: 2143.8MB Max: 2309.0MB Chunks: 643 CGO: 196 Ply: 1 Zom: 2 Ent: 4 (71) Items: 0 CO: 2 RSS: 2143.7MB

2019-11-18T02:08:37 21926.423 INF VehicleManager saving 1 (1 / 0)

2019-11-18T02:08:43 21931.761 INF Time: 352.96m FPS: 50.37 Heap: 2160.1MB Max: 2309.0MB Chunks: 643 CGO: 182 Ply: 1 Zom: 1 Ent: 3 (71) Items: 0 CO: 2 RSS: 2194.7MB

2019-11-18T02:08:53 21941.944 INF Entity zombieNurseFeral 1331 killed

2019-11-18T02:08:54 21942.917 INF [DECO] written 152/371

2019-11-18T02:09:04 21952.952 INF Entity zombieDarlene 1328 killed

2019-11-18T02:09:05 21954.140 WRN Dropping TE with unknown type: None

2019-11-18T02:09:05 21954.140 WRN Dropping TE with unknown type: 218

2019-11-18T02:09:05 21954.140 WRN Dropping TE with unknown type: None

2019-11-18T02:09:05 21954.151 ERR EXCEPTION: In load chunk (chunkX=83 chunkZ=48)

2019-11-18T02:09:05 21954.152 EXC Attempted to read past the end of the stream.

EndOfStreamException: Attempted to read past the end of the stream.

at PooledBinaryReader.ReadByte () [0x00008] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at ItemValue.Read (System.IO.BinaryReader _br) [0x0012f] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at ItemValue.Read (System.IO.BinaryReader _br) [0x00098] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at ItemValue.Read (System.IO.BinaryReader _br) [0x000f1] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at ItemValue.Read (System.IO.BinaryReader _br) [0x00098] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at ItemValue.Read (System.IO.BinaryReader _br) [0x000f1] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at ItemValue.Read (System.IO.BinaryReader _br) [0x00098] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at ItemStack.Read (System.IO.BinaryReader _br) [0x00015] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at GameUtils.ReadItemStack (System.IO.BinaryReader _br) [0x00012] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at TraderData.ReadInventoryData (System.IO.BinaryReader _br) [0x0000b] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at TraderData.Read (System.Byte _version, System.IO.BinaryReader _br) [0x0001f] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at TileEntityTrader.read (System.IO.BinaryReader _br, TileEntity+StreamModeRead _eStreamMode) [0x00022] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at Chunk.read (System.IO.BinaryReader _br, System.UInt32 _version, System.Boolean _bNetworkRead) [0x00562] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at Chunk.load (System.IO.BinaryReader stream, System.UInt32 _version) [0x00000] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at RegionFileManager.loadChunk (System.String _dir, System.Int64 _key) [0x0012d] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:Internal_LogException(Exception, Object)

UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object)

UnityEngine.Logger:LogException(Exception, Object)

UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception)

Logger:masterLogException(Exception)

Logger:Exception(Exception)

Log:Exception(Exception)

RegionFileManager:loadChunk(String, Int64)

RegionFileManager:GetChunkSync(Int64)

ChunkProviderGenerateWorld:DoGenerateChunks()

ChunkProviderGenerateWorld:thread_GenerateChunks(ThreadInfo)

ThreadManager:myThreadInvoke(Object)

System.Threading.QueueUserWorkItemCallback:System.Threading.IThreadPoolWorkItem.ExecuteWorkItem()

System.Threading.ThreadPoolWorkQueue:Dispatch()

System.Threading._ThreadPoolWaitCallback:PerformWaitCallback()

(Filename: <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56> Line: 0)

2019-11-18T02:09:05 21954.213 ERR Stream position: 29825, length: 29825, compressed length: 3883

2019-11-18T02:09:13 21961.771 INF Time: 353.46m FPS: 67.76 Heap: 2112.3MB Max: 2309.0MB Chunks: 643 CGO: 204 Ply: 1 Zom: 1 Ent: 3 (73) Items: 0 CO: 2 RSS: 2307.6MB

2019-11-18T02:09:27 21976.149 INF Saving 101 of chunks took 60ms

2019-11-18T02:09:44 21992.771 INF Time: 353.96m FPS: 58.50 Heap: 2147.3MB Max: 2309.0MB Chunks: 643 CGO: 202 Ply: 1 Zom: 1 Ent: 3 (73) Items: 0 CO: 2 RSS: 2306.4MB

I'm experimenting with a world without RELXIX's two to see if it needs updating. On my first crash, I lost my entire base, but on my second crash I lost most of my base (no region reset) except for a strip of my wall. My third crash was a region reset.

Update: I went and re-installed 7D2D, loaded up my NITROGEN map (did not scrub gamedata) and I got a different error entirely with the same idea; 1 bedroll, 1 chest, 1 LCB and a stack (30k) of coal; a stack that was previously a "Bundle of Coal". It did WRN and ERR to remove all of the items after travelling away 500m and coming back.

2019-11-18T22:18:27 81.189 INF [DECO] read 34/49

2019-11-18T22:18:28 81.716 INF AstarManager Init

2019-11-18T22:18:29 82.470 INF Weather Packages Created FROM BIOMES

2019-11-18T22:18:29 82.471 INF createWorld() done

2019-11-18T22:18:29 82.472 INF Calculating world hashes

2019-11-18T22:18:29 82.474 INF Loading players.xml

2019-11-18T22:18:29 82.531 ERR Loading player data failed for player '76561198020230799', rolling back: Attempted to read past the end of the stream.

at PooledBinaryReader.FillBuffer (System.Int32 _numBytes) [0x00030] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at PooledBinaryReader.ReadInt32 () [0x00000] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at PlayerDataFile.Read (System.IO.BinaryReader _br, System.UInt32 _version) [0x00375] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at PlayerDataFile.Load (System.String _dir, System.String _playerName) [0x00086] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

2019-11-18T22:18:29 82.543 ERR Loading backup player data failed for player '76561198020230799', rolling back: Attempted to read past the end of the stream.

at PooledBinaryReader.FillBuffer (System.Int32 _numBytes) [0x00030] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at PooledBinaryReader.ReadInt32 () [0x00000] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at PlayerDataFile.Read (System.IO.BinaryReader _br, System.UInt32 _version) [0x00375] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

at PlayerDataFile.Load (System.String _dir, System.String _playerName) [0x0018c] in <9d3ce62bccb44fc0b638ccdfcdc35c56>:0

2019-11-18T22:18:29 82.776 INF Created player with id=245

2019-11-18T22:18:29 82.805 WRN InitBreadCrumbs BeeBeeBee (71.0, 41.0, -614.0)

2019-11-18T22:18:29 82.810 INF Loaded player

I'll go back to Pregen maps or let the RWG work instead of using Nitrogen for the time being.

White-Gandalf · November 19, 2019

my bases have been vanishing on every single map I've started in a18...

May it be - reasoning from the time of writing - that your game just updated to "18.2 b8"?

In my case, only specific parts of the world became - halfways - reinstanciated. Namely trees catched my eyes. But i could well imagine that there is something in the background of that upgrade that resets arbitrary elements, including all the things you described. I wouldn't be surprised if those cases accumulate in the next days.

Ups:

The only issue with world stability I've experienced this far has been with the latest patch, it spawned a bunch of new trees in my world, they're at 1 hp (probably 0, but shows as 1) and give the harvest bonus on kill..

Exactly THAT.

AtomicUs5000 · November 19, 2019

Staying on the same map through experimental versions often creates problems like these, but I did not bring that up because OP says that this has happened many times in A18 after starting fresh maps. This leads me to believe that at least one of the outdated mods is causing the problem-- not only because outdated mods can also often cause similar problems, but because this is the common factor among the games OP started.

**Jugginator** · November 19, 2019

The only issue with world stability I've experienced this far has been with the latest patch, it spawned a bunch of new trees in my world, they're at 1 hp (probably 0, but shows as 1) and give the harvest bonus on kill..

Haven't noticed anything resetting or anything, longest game has gone on since somewhere in 18(.0) exps.

Yeh this is one that hit me. Figure it's just an experimental thing.

But either OP you have a dying HDD or one or more of the mods is causing it. Never seen a base/poi wipe/reset error on my ♥♥♥♥ty laptop, ever lol.

Lako · November 19, 2019

In my experience this is connected to overrunning forges. Have happened multiple times for me single-player multi-player doesn't matter.

Lowering max amount of resources forge can hold to 20k fixed this issue for me. Before that I used to have multiple "forge based resource production" bases in remote areas, if one reset i lost only what was there.

I haven't done it recently but this could have been reproduced quite consistently:

- order max of anything from forge

- have it still smelting for that items you ordered

- cancel order after a while so max resource units in forge goes past 30k

- leave base, come back later

- chunk reset ....

Lost enormous amount of work this way few times. 200h+ castles reduced to ruble.... because forge in the middle decided to reset .

Hope this helps to narrow it down.

eXSe · November 19, 2019

May it be - reasoning from the time of writing - that your game just updated to "18.2 b8"?

In my case, only specific parts of the world became - halfways - reinstanciated. Namely trees catched my eyes. But i could well imagine that there is something in the background of that upgrade that resets arbitrary elements, including all the things you described. I wouldn't be surprised if those cases accumulate in the next days.

Ups:
Exactly THAT.

Nope, happened since a18 dropped and continued onward. Maybe I should just go vanilla for a while and see what, if anything, happens.

- - - Updated - - -

Well, I sincerely hope that my HDD is not dying

n2n1 · November 19, 2019

Yes, i too have seen this a couple of times myself and heard from others that this happened.

(on vanilla or mods in A18)

theFlu · November 19, 2019

I haven't done it recently but this could have been reproduced quite consistently:
- order max of anything from forge
- have it still smelting for that items you ordered
- cancel order after a while so max resource units in forge goes past 30k
- leave base, come back later
- chunk reset ....

Now That sounds plausible, and since I was saying it hasn't happened to me, well, I have never overfilled my forges either.. I NEED my stuff..

Grolbu · November 20, 2019

This sounds a lot like the bug I reported in the 18.0b155 bug report thread - while returning to the base, when it was supposed to appear the console window would flash up with a couple of red lines, the terrain the base was on would reset back to 'as generated', and everything that had been on it vanished. I lost half of a few bases this way, half the base vanished but the other half was on a chunk that loaded ok and was fine. The official answer I got was that it was probably due to the mods I was using, then in the same thread someone reported the same problem but they weren't using any mods, then 18.1b6 went stable and that thread was locked.

So in the b6 bug report thread I asked about it again and was told that as unmodded games were also experiencing it then it did seem to be a problem and the devs were looking into it and would appreciate logs from anyone else not running mods who had the problem.

Since then I haven't seen any more about it, it's happened a couple more times without the console window appearing, I opted out of the experimental so I'm now (I think) on 18.1b8 and it seems to have settled down. If you want to read up it's on the last (maybe 2nd to last) page of the b155 thread, and at the start of the b6 thread.

Also, because I got fed up with the game stealing my ♥♥♥♥ so I had to start over (it was never the side of the base with storage and benches that survived!) I learned how to use the creative side of things

Grolbu · November 20, 2019

In my experience this is connected to overrunning forges.
...
Lowering max amount of resources forge can hold to 20k fixed this issue for me.

Thank you, I'm going to try that, that does sound familiar !

Just to make sure I've got it right -

- the amount of each resources showing as being in the forge is actually the *available* amount, and

- when you tell the forge to craft something it removes resources from its available amount but they are still counted in the total for that resource, and if you cancel the crafting they are still counted as they are still in the forge but don't reappear in the available amount, and

- when the available amount of a resource in the forge PLUS any of that resource left over from cancelled crafting exceeds the forge limit the forge basically explodes

that about right ?

Thanks

oh and could you also fix it by *raising* the max amount of resources the forge can handle - surely lowering it just means the problem will happen sooner ?

qkj_ · November 29, 2019

hi guys. i have just experienced the exact same problem. do i understand correctly that the problem is irreversible and the map is ♥♥♥♥ed up for good? because i have lost everything, all equipment and all stashes. does that mean 170 hours of gametime flushed down the toilet?

**SylenThunder** · November 29, 2019

hi guys. i have just experienced the exact same problem. do i understand correctly that the problem is irreversible and the map is ♥♥♥♥ed up for good? because i have lost everything, all equipment and all stashes. does that mean 170 hours of gametime flushed down the toilet?

If you didn't make backups, yep.

You have to remember, you are playing a game that is still in Alpha development. It's not finished, and occasional bugs are to be expected. If that bug leads to a loss of data or progress, you can always restore from a recent backup.

Why would you get 170 hours in and not make sure you have a backup?

qkj_ · November 29, 2019

Why would you get 170 hours in and not make sure you have a backup?

well, obviously i did not expected problem of such magnitude

thx for your answer, though

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