agrastiOs Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Wanted to share this: Great job TFP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Wanted to share this: Great job TFP! That was a pretty cool video from Capp. I bet Robert is shedding some tears somewhere though lol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Well crafting the ore bundles definitely grants a ton of XP that has diminishing returns lol, try it out and craft some. They only have DR on each ore type, so once you hit low XP on one you can do another for big XP. (e.g., coal, nitrate, iron, etc.) - - - Updated - - - Oh I noticed but I was happy with the change lol. I think some things grant a little xp, but it goes away. Don't really care for getting too much easy XP though. No it doesn't grant any xp, I tested it yesterday before I proclaimed it didn't, just to be sure. I crafted a coal bundle. Maybe you have a mod installed you forgot about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Minor Balancing thought, I like how POI quests "Reset" a POI when accepting one. However, I think it takes away from the survival element of the game a bit as this will ensure that resources never run out in a particular area. I play with no loot respawning and this mechanic works against that particular setting. A possible solution is to add a setting or modify the current respawn setting to also apply to quests. This might be too complicated to do as there would need to be a way to determine if. POI was already looted before marking it as a quest target for the player..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Crafting bundles totally gives us XP and we get diminishing returns. At least 2 people on my server were getting XP from crafting rock bundles. And I believe I have received xp for crafting things in my inventory but cannot verify that that is what actually gave me the xp. https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?131071-Bundles-should-give-no-xp&highlight=bundle https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?133391-Crafting-small-stone-bundles-give-way-to-much-xp&highlight=Bundle https://7daystodie.com/forums/showthread.php?129574-Unintended-experience-gain&highlight=Bundle I already verified it doesn't. You guys are confused when you open it it adds 6000 coal to your inventory which looks almost like the XP popup. I tested with the latest trunk. I'll have testing check the live build, but the design is no xp for any crafting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Not going to lie I expected a picture of the behemoth or zipline haha. Sounds good! I don't ever adjust FOV but it seems quite a few do/would be happy. I felt nauseous just looking at some of the jacked up FOV some of you posted but if it works for you then that's good. I tried 90 and felt some nausea for whatever reason. It vanished after 2 seconds and I was fine. Changing it was probably the cause, not the FOV itself. I hate how it looks though, NPCS appear to be three times further away than they really are, which might explain some disconnect with range people talk about, they are probably ruining the experience with a high fov. Sorry but that is my take on it. Guys who hit me are taking up 30% of my screen space. I like 60 tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 If you upgrade from 18.1 to 18.2, then bundles do give experience. I've reported this early on 18.2 experimental, but since it only happens on an existing world, it can't be reproduced on a new 18.2 world and was closed. Ah ok that might explain it then. Very odd. I started a new game to test it on, and as I said I've never seen any crafting XP since 18 got underway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSniper Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 No it doesn't grant any xp, I tested it yesterday before I proclaimed it didn't, just to be sure. I crafted a coal bundle. Maybe you have a mod installed you forgot about. I don't have any mods installed in my server, the only changes to the config i made was the random seed and password. It seems to be fixed in fresh installs of 182 based on other users, Which is Great! Our server started as 18 and upgraded to 18.1 which was definitely giving us xp. We upgraded to 18.2 yesterday and haven't verified if the new version still gives us xp. Personally I was asking because I haven't seen any mention of it by anyone on the staff, and all of the threads I looked at didn't get responded to and I didn't see any mention of the issue in patch notes. As for as whether we mistook the 6000 coal for xp. I doubt it considering the xp value diminished the more we did it, and the 6000 wouldn't have behaved in this manor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I know that the XP is real. There just isn't a solid repro case for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I know that the XP is real. There just isn't a solid repro case for it. I think the repro is an upgraded save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 NPCS appear to be three times further away than they really are, which might explain some disconnect with range people talk about, they are probably ruining the experience with a high fov.. You know I take in to consideration how the size of FOV will affect my ability to compansate for messed up depth perception. Thats why I only have FOV set to around 75 in most games. I've also wondered how many people that have brought up "hit collision and or effective weapon ranges" have also increased there FOV and not understanding the effect it'll have on how they have to melee and judge depth etc. I'm guessing a lot of complaints about those 2 issues stem from FOV changes and the player not understanding fully what it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I know that the XP is real. There just isn't a solid repro case for it. @Gazz I have not caught wind of this yet. Just to clarify, its a known bug doing it and no solid repro steps yet? <-- serious question. If thats the case I'll jump on it and see if I cannot help the testers with repro steps. Been a minute since I last hunted a bug down. - - - Updated - - - I think the repro is an upgraded save. Sounds like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damocles Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I put my FOV in 7DtD usually at 75. Its not a fast paced shooter, so it does not need to be that wide. In any case, every user should set this to their own range to feel comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugginator Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I tried 90 and felt some nausea for whatever reason. It vanished after 2 seconds and I was fine. Changing it was probably the cause, not the FOV itself. I hate how it looks though, NPCS appear to be three times further away than they really are, which might explain some disconnect with range people talk about, they are probably ruining the experience with a high fov. Sorry but that is my take on it. Guys who hit me are taking up 30% of my screen space. I like 60 tbh. Yeah I hear you there, but if some people need to to not get sick I suppose not everyone's the same. But changing it too much makes me sick too haha. The fov messing with aim is a likely thing, I know if I play on a high resolution in twitch shooters such as CSGO my aim gets thrown off / the models look further away/smaller than what they really are. I keep my resolution low for that reason, hell I know a lot of "pros" do the same, although you won't catch me playing at 800x600.. lol that's just too low. On the bundle crafting granting XP, you're right if it's caused by continueing an old save, I couldn't give up my old one lol. I'll be starting a new world/save soon, sorry for bringing it up, I just figured it was still a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaxTeller718 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I tried 90 and felt some nausea for whatever reason. It vanished after 2 seconds and I was fine. Changing it was probably the cause, not the FOV itself. I hate how it looks though, NPCS appear to be three times further away than they really are, which might explain some disconnect with range people talk about, they are probably ruining the experience with a high fov. Sorry but that is my take on it. Guys who hit me are taking up 30% of my screen space. I like 60 tbh. Dont want to burst your bubble but range is definitely off. I never mess with FOV so that wouldnt apply in my case. Its even worse on servers but thats expected due to desync of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2n1 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Something old, something new, coming sometime to you........ [ATTACH=CONFIG]30841[/ATTACH] Standing ovation!!! ... I like 60 tbh. no... I don't believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 deleted. read post incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugginator Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Yeah I think something is wonky with the hitboxes/hitregs, it doesn't happen often, but I have clearly hit something and it doesn't hit sometimes before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Yeah I think something is wonky with the hitboxes/hitregs, it doesn't happen often, but I have clearly hit something and it doesn't hit sometimes before. Yeah there is no doubt about it. I've seen the videos clear as day, had it happen to myself a lot. Tons of players have talked about it. its a real thing. As I said and deleted lol, it has gottin a lot better though. P.S. damn I'm surprised you caught and read all that I had posted then deleted. It wasn't up more than a minute lol. I guess someone is always watching huh lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugginator Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Yeah there is no doubt about it. I've seen the videos clear as day, had it happen to myself a lot. Tons of players have talked about it. its a real thing. As I said and deleted lol, it has gottin a lot better though. P.S. damn I'm surprised you caught and read all that I had posted then deleted. It wasn't up more than a minute lol. I guess someone is always watching huh lol. It's a power of the Jar Tosser nation. Something which non-Jar Tossers or the Jedi would never teach you. i've got decent aim in FP, so it doesn't happen as often I suppose, but there definitely have been cases of "Uh, the same distance/aim hit last time but not this swing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Man Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 It's a power of the Jar Tosser nation. Something which non-Jar Tossers or the Jedi would never teach you. i've got decent aim in FP, so it doesn't happen as often I suppose, but there definitely have been cases of "Uh, the same distance/aim hit last time but not this swing". Have you tried turning on the melee hit detection thingy? The one that shows green/red colors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelius Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Dont want to burst your bubble but range is definitely off. I never mess with FOV so that wouldnt apply in my case. Its even worse on servers but thats expected due to desync of course. This. Melee range is consistently wonky when playing as a client in a P2P game. -A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcsobral Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Have you tried turning on the melee hit detection thingy? The one that shows green/red colors? Oh, interesting, I missed that option. How do you turn it on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jugginator Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I don't remember the exact command, but it's in the list you get by entering help in the console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDog1942 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 This. Melee range is consistently wonky when playing as a client in a P2P game. -A I have been saying this but they don’t want to listen. They just blame the internet, ping, lag, etc. It’s much worse than any other game out there considering the internet and all those factors that affect all games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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