Limdood Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Grandpa's Ferget'n Elixir... I saw it and assumed that it was a consumable respec....you unlearn your assigned levelling points and can reassign them. If that isn't actually what the item does...then this entire post will make no sense and you can feel free to ignore it after the due ridicule I'll deserve. (though If you could tell me what it DOES do, I'd appreciate it quite a bit) But if that IS what the item does, I was wondering if anyone could answer a few questions regarding how it interacts with perk and looted recipes/schematics and whether or not you lose known recipes from various sources. The big question: Does using the elixir UNLEARN any recipes that you've learned from ANY sources at all? If the answer is No, then awesome, you've answered everything already. If yes, I'm also curious as to how it interacts with the following situations: 1) If I can make a forge, due to the intellect Blacksmith perk, and I use the elixir, can I still make a forge afterwards without buying the perk again? 2) If I've found a schematic for the forge, use it, and then use the elixir without buying the Blacksmith perk, do I unlearn the recipe for forge? (In other words, does it cancel out learned looted recipes or just skill points) 2b) If #2 is true and the elixir unlearns found recipes, does it also unlearn magazine perks? 3) (the hard one) If I learn the blacksmith perk to learn the forge recipe, and then find and learn the loot item forge recipe, does the elixir remove my ability to make the forge (since i did learn it through the perk, but ALSO later through the recipe) I can see it working either way in any of these situations, but TFP have left the description (probably deliberately, given the origin and flavor of the item) quite vague as to what it exactly does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoidHippo Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 You can find out quickly. Make a new game, turn cheats on in the options, find some books in the creative menu, read them, drink the elixir and see if it wiped the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unholyjoe Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 a. schematic 1. find schematic to craft forge and read it 2. check in craft window to confirm can craft forge 3. drink 1 fergit elixir 4. check craft window confirm still can craft forge start new game b. gain xp for points to spend 1. spec into attribute far enough to learn perk to craft forge 2. confirm can craft forge 3. drink fergit elixir 4. check craft window to confirm can not craft forge now. (you now have the points to spend again) QA Tester-unholyjoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoidHippo Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Cool, thanks Joe. That would make the elixir pretty much unusable if it did wipe the books IMO. Glad it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limdood Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 Cool, I appreciate the testing (I'm aware it's not too hard to test, I just thought of the situation, and don't have immediate access to the game...thought it might be worth asking here so people can see). What about #3? c. Gain XP for points to spend 1. spec intoblacksmith to craft forge 2. spawn forge schematic and read it. 3. confirm the forge is craftable and the recipe is learned 4. drink fergit elixir 5. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unholyjoe Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Cool, I appreciate the testing (I'm aware it's not too hard to test, I just thought of the situation, and don't have immediate access to the game...thought it might be worth asking here so people can see). What about #3? c. Gain XP for points to spend 1. spec intoblacksmith to craft forge 2. spawn forge schematic and read it. 3. confirm the forge is craftable and the recipe is learned 4. drink fergit elixir 5. ??? in case of c go to a. you loose perks and gain points but it doesnt affect schematics already read (it didnt for me). next test is yours, gotta do something for yourself. QA Tester-unholyjoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalarro Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 a. schematic 1. find schematic to craft forge and read it 2. check in craft window to confirm can craft forge 3. drink 1 fergit elixir 4. check craft window confirm still can craft forge start new game b. gain xp for points to spend 1. spec into attribute far enough to learn perk to craft forge 2. confirm can craft forge 3. drink fergit elixir 4. check craft window to confirm can not craft forge now. (you now have the points to spend again) QA Tester-unholyjoe Good, that's how it should be. But sounded like something easy to do wrong, either deleting recipes in both cases or not deleting them in both cases. One would be very bad and the other easily exploitable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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