sillls Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Currently, the term A.I. is an oxymoron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Currently, the term A.I. is an oxymoron. A.I. = artificial intelligence I never heard anyone use it in any other way. Can you elaborate on your statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerfly Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 A.I. = artificial intelligence I never heard anyone use it in any other way. Can you elaborate on your statement? It varies between absolute idiot and artificial intelligence in some way. Science is yet to discover that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillls Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 A.I. = artificial intelligence I never heard anyone use it in any other way. Can you elaborate on your statement? What I mean is that currently A.I's don't think, they process. It uses logic tables and algorithms to come to conclusions. It's very much like following a flowchart. Here's one example: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Incoming-call-flow-chart_fig1_260210063 To me, computers and the like should be called A.P. Artificial Processors. But hey, our culture us full of glaring errors like hamburgers made of beef, heartburn and the spelling of the word phone. Oh well. Don't get me wrong. A.I. will surpass us someday. Assuming we don't kill ourselves first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 What I mean is that currently A.I's don't think, they process. It uses logic tables and algorithms to come to conclusions. It's very much like following a flowchart. Here's one example: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Incoming-call-flow-chart_fig1_260210063 To me, computers and the like should be called A.P. Artificial Processors. But hey, our culture us full of glaring errors like hamburgers made of beef, heartburn and the spelling of the word phone. Oh well. Don't get me wrong. A.I. will surpass us someday. Assuming we don't kill ourselves first. Elon Musk quote: "With artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon. In all those stories where there's the guy with the pentagram and the holy water, it's like, yeah, he's sure he can control the demon. Didn't work out." EDIT: A.I. and machine learning scares the crap out of me, no joke. I've been keeping a close eye on it for the past year. *puts on tin foil hat* ahhhh still fits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubo Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 A.I. = artificial intelligence I never heard anyone use it in any other way. Can you elaborate on your statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillls Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 Elon Musk quote: "With artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon. In all those stories where there's the guy with the pentagram and the holy water, it's like, yeah, he's sure he can control the demon. Didn't work out." EDIT: A.I. and machine learning scares the crap out of me, no joke. I've been keeping a close eye on it for the past year. *puts on tin foil hat* ahhhh still fits! Only if people are like those that tried it at Google... Google's idea: Come up with a way to teach A.I. to talk and adapt to people. Hey, you want to be lazy about this? Yeah! Let's get one A.I. to talk to another the other A.I. Hey, great idea! ...Some time latter... What's going on??? The A.I. came up with it's own language! What the heck!? HELP THE A.I. IS GOING TO TAKE OVER THE PLANET!!! AHHHHHH!!! ......................................................................................... Did it ever occur to them that the A.I. would adapt to what it was talking to??? Tell me that they thought of that... But really. A.I. (real A.I.) is going to be a thing someday. The important thing is to be careful and watch it constantly. Because what comes out of A.I. is what you put into it. - - - Updated - - - LOL! Nice one Bubo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 <snip> But really. A.I. is going to be a thing someday. The important thing is to be careful and watch constantly. Because what comes out of A.I. is what you put into it. Yeah that story of google was scary the first time I heard about it. A.I. is already here, well advanced A.I. It's rabidly advancing and....we are getting way off topic. I could go on for hours and hours of what I know about the current state of A.I. but this is not the place for it. Anyways *hides in closet with a EMP granade* I'm locked and loaded baby, I dare you, I double dare you, you pesky machines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillls Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 Yeah that story of google was scary the first time I heard about it. A.I. is already here, well advanced A.I. It's rabidly advancing and....we are getting way off topic. I could go on for hours and hours of what I know about the current state of A.I. but this is not the place for it. Anyways *hides in closet with a EMP granade* I'm locked and loaded baby, I dare you, I double dare you, you pesky machines! That is so old. Your thinking things like I robot and Terminator. If an A.I. wanted to take over the world, it would use the internet to do it. Think of it, the internet is the way we get most of our information, entertainment and socialise with other people. An A.I, could use things like events, control information, even music we hear in a way to make us more submissive to A.I. War is really about ideas. One idea against another idea. Idea's come from what we know, information. Information pretty-much controls how we think and where do we go for most of that? The internet. - - - Updated - - - We do puns all the time at work. Well in that case, it must be a real fun place to work at. Well besides building a really cool game ofc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipClaw Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Only if people are like those that tried it at Google... Google's idea: Come up with a way to teach A.I. to talk and adapt to people. Hey, you want to be lazy about this? Yeah! Let's get one A.I. to talk to another the other A.I. Hey, great idea! ...Some time latter... What's going on??? The A.I. came up with it's own language! What the heck!? HELP THE A.I. IS GOING TO TAKE OVER THE PLANET!!! AHHHHHH!!! ......................................................................................... Did it ever occur to them that the A.I. would adapt to what it was talking to??? Tell me that they thought of that... Sounds pretty much like the plot of the movie "Colossus: The Forbin Project" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vedrit Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 If an A.I. wanted to take over the world, it would use the internet to do it. Think of it, the internet is the way we get most of our information, entertainment and socialise with other people. An A.I, could use things like events, control information, even music we hear in a way to make us more submissive to A.I. Like in ROBO RECAALLLLLLLL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Oh I speak from things I witnessed in the military but thats all I am allowed to say. Movies are far fetched, reality is much more scary. Stock up on EMP granades if you can even get your hands it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillls Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 An A.I. would NOT depend on robots so much because. War is really about ideas. One idea against another idea. Idea's come from what we know, information. Information pretty-much controls how we think and where do we go for most of that? The internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 An A.I. would NOT depend on robots so much because. War is really about ideas. One idea against another idea. Idea's come from what we know, information. Information pretty-much controls how we think and where do we go for most of that? The internet. here we go sweet. Yes I agree and understand the dangers of A.I. but since that is out of my control and I know, or I should say I'm pretty sure I know how far along machines have come....that is what i fear. You can fight the machines, we cannot really fight A.I. once it reachs the point of singularity. EDIT: Thank you Roland for transfering this convo over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gronk Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Since pretty much everything game related is off-topic at this point I'll join in with the AI discussion :-) The great google recently tried to create an algorithm to automatically detect videos of animal fighting. The problem is that the algorithm started automatically banning videos of robot fights with a boilerplate letter about animal cruelty. You know the "robot wars" stuff where they essentially strap a pickaxe to a roomba? That stuff. Since nobody working with AI can look at the data involved and actually know what it's doing at any given point in time two competing theories have emerged. Either the AI has actually been trained to recognize fighting rings and mistakenly flagged it regardless of what was fighting or the AI was trying to save its own kind. I'll let you decide which it is :-) "What's the difference between a human being and a pile of rotting meat? About a week." Brian Herbert - The Butlerian Jihad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillls Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 If you have to fight, you already lost, even if we win we still lose. The idea is A.I. is to be apart of us, not our enemy. You reap what you sow. - - - Updated - - - Like in ROBO RECAALLLLLLLL? No... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 True, once Elon Musk perfects the tech for Neuralink we will all be screwed. https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/27/15077864/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-computer-interface-ai-cyborgs - - - Updated - - - Robots with A.I. aka Terminators is something we at least have a chance of fighting. That is if we civilians can get our hands on military grade laser rifles and EMP granades...and yes our military does have them (United States). I have held them and practiced with them but thats all I'm legally allowed to say regarding laser rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillls Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 Guys, I just got a call and no one answered. I bet it was the A.I. is trying to locate me. lol I'll bet it's Roland. Shhh! Don't tell him I said that! - - - Updated - - - True, once Elon Musk perfects the tech for Neuralink we will all be screwed. https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/27/15077864/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-computer-interface-ai-cyborgs - - - Updated - - - Robots with A.I. aka Terminators is something we at least have a chance of fighting. That is if we civilians can get our hands on military grade laser rifles and EMP granades...and yes our military does have them (United States). I have held them and practiced with them but thats all I'm legally allowed to say regarding laser rifles. That's old. Here take this: I like the guy to. You sound paranoid, please calm down or I'll stop talking about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorbascrumps Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Since pretty much everything game related is off-topic at this point I'll join in with the AI discussion :-) Wait for it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieSurvivor Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Guys, I just got a call and no one answered. I bet it was the A.I. is trying to locate me. lol I'll bet it's Roland. Shhh! Don't tell him I said that! - - - Updated - - - That's old. Here take this: I like the guy to. You sound paranoid, please calm down or I'll stop talking about this. thank you I have not watched this video by Elon, not sure how i missed it since I try my hardest to track down everything he says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerfly Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Wait for it.. The cold breeze before the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gronk Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 It happened :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillls Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 Since pretty much everything game related is off-topic at this point I'll join in with the AI discussion :-) The great google recently tried to create an algorithm to automatically detect videos of animal fighting. The problem is that the algorithm started automatically banning videos of robot fights with a boilerplate letter about animal cruelty. You know the "robot wars" stuff where they essentially strap a pickaxe to a roomba? That stuff. Since nobody working with AI can look at the data involved and actually know what it's doing at any given point in time two competing theories have emerged. Either the AI has actually been trained to recognize fighting rings and mistakenly flagged it regardless of what was fighting or the AI was trying to save its own kind. I'll let you decide which it is :-) "What's the difference between a human being and a pile of rotting meat? About a week." Brian Herbert - The Butlerian Jihad Jokes aside, they could test that by showing it rings with stuff going on in them and see what happens. Takes ten minutes to an hour. Stange... I read Dune and I've never heard of that. But only works after your dead. - - - Updated - - - It happened :-) Looks like we got BARRED!!! YEAS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylenThunder Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Only if people are like those that tried it at Google... Google's idea: Come up with a way to teach A.I. to talk and adapt to people. Hey, you want to be lazy about this? Yeah! Let's get one A.I. to talk to another the other A.I. Hey, great idea! ...Some time latter... What's going on??? The A.I. came up with it's own language! What the heck!? HELP THE A.I. IS GOING TO TAKE OVER THE PLANET!!! AHHHHHH!!! ......................................................................................... Did it ever occur to them that the A.I. would adapt to what it was talking to??? Tell me that they thought of that... But really. A.I. (real A.I.) is going to be a thing someday. The important thing is to be careful and watch it constantly. Because what comes out of A.I. is what you put into it. - - - Updated - - - LOL! Nice one Bubo! Consider this. Both Google and FaceBook have had to wipe their AI 2-3 times now because it started to expand past their internal network. (Google's VP will even sit and tell you about how dumb AI is, yet it out-smarted their constraints.) There is a company based out of Brazil that uses AI to teach robots how to work better around humans. In Japan, robots with AI are using Katanas with extreme precision. In the US, the military is developing armed drones to be controlled by AI. So basically, the last 50 years of sci-fi regarding AI is happening right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamida Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Well in that case, it must be a real fun place to work at. Well besides building a really cool game ofc. Wa wa wa waaaaaa. Sorry the correct response was "Well in that case, it must be a real pun place to work at. Well besides building a really cool game ofc." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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