Bilbo Swaggins Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Is there any sort of estimate on the release date of the experimental builds? I remember reading first half of 2019 was the expected release date. I don't mind waiting but it'd be easier to wait with a time frame in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburglar Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 The release was announced for the first part of 2019, guess this is another fluke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roachy Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Is there any sort of estimate on the release date of the experimental builds? I remember reading first half of 2019 was the expected release date. I don't mind waiting but it'd be easier to wait with a time frame in mind. I have to admit I would like to know at least a reasonably accurate approximation too. I put a server online in anticipation of a18 (cause we all stopped playing / hated a17), but then the release was changed from the original estimate. It does cost me $30 a month to keep the damn thing running and I'm not even playing on it myself because I can't stand a17. This is one of the less talked about problems of posting release dates that aren't adhered to. It cost the server owners real money to keep the damn things running. If I had known that your release date wasn't going to be in June as promised I would have turned the server off for 2 months and used the money for something else. Instead now we are in the "indeterminate" release time phase again and I don't know if I should turn it off or not. If I do it may come out next week, if I don't it may come out in 3 months. Please take us into consideration when making these types of arbitrary promises in the future. You may make a lot of money from this but the server owners do not. We do contribute to your sales and popularity by maintaining well run servers. All we ask in return is that you pick a release date and stick to it. It's better to say "sometime in 2019" than to say "by the end of the month". So tell me please, do I turn the damn thing back off again now or is it worth leaving it running because we are very close? Can you at least tell us that much? My servers population won't be happy but they will understand if I turn it off because of a lack of release time info. I would prefer not to disappoint the 40+ people I cater to though, so help me out here. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDog1942 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 I have to admit I would like to know at least a reasonably accurate approximation too. I put a server online in anticipation of a18 (cause we all stopped playing / hated a17), but then the release was changed from the original estimate. It does cost me $30 a month to keep the damn thing running and I'm not even playing on it myself because I can't stand a17. This is one of the less talked about problems of posting release dates that aren't adhered to. It cost the server owners real money to keep the damn things running. If I had known that your release date wasn't going to be in June as promised I would have turned the server off for 2 months and used the money for something else. Instead now we are in the "indeterminate" release time phase again and I don't know if I should turn it off or not. If I do it may come out next week, if I don't it may come out in 3 months. Please take us into consideration when making these types of arbitrary promises in the future. You may make a lot of money from this but the server owners do not. We do contribute to your sales and popularity by maintaining well run servers. All we ask in return is that you pick a release date and stick to it. It's better to say "sometime in 2019" than to say "by the end of the month". So tell me please, do I turn the damn thing back off again now or is it worth leaving it running because we are very close? Can you at least tell us that much? My servers population won't be happy but they will understand if I turn it off because of a lack of release time info. I would prefer not to disappoint the 40+ people I cater to though, so help me out here. Cheers. Or u can rent the server when experimental hits. You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roachy Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 What a stupid response SnowDog. Are you even in a position to answer my post? No you are not so please leave the response to someone who is. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDog1942 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 What a stupid response SnowDog. Are you even in a position to answer my post? No you are not so please leave the response to someone who is. Thanks. Wow, ive been told Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomaana Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 What a stupid response SnowDog. Are you even in a position to answer my post? No you are not so please leave the response to someone who is. Thanks. Get pissy if you want but his answer would solve your complaint. You would have to completely reinstall the server for A18 anyway so to pay for it to run A17 while you wait and not play is just wasting cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roachy Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Get pissy if you want but his answer would solve your complaint. You would have to completely reinstall the server for A18 anyway so to pay for it to run A17 while you wait and not play is just wasting cash. And you guys wonder why the vast majority of people that play this game don't bother coming to the forums... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowDog1942 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 And you guys wonder why the vast majority of people that play this game don't bother coming to the forums... If experimental comes out tomorrow, i could have a server up and running tomorrow. Im not sure why its even a problem My guess is that you just want to know a release date, and so do most of us. However most of us dont try to justify it by using an excuse that they are renting a server for months for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtille5757 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 "I can assure you A18 will release before the half of 2019" That was written on the first page Ho but what happened ? Ones again they don't shoulder what they said. But the real problem is, they don't really tell us, they just delete the sentence on the forum. That's pathetic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Swaggins Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 "I can assure you A18 will release before the half of 2019" That was written on the first page Ho but what happened ? Ones again they don't shoulder what they said. But the real problem is, they don't really tell us, they just delete the sentence on the forum. That's pathetic... Things get set back and unforeseen obstacles can pop up and that's understandable but the biggest issue is that they seem to reply to every comment except for ones asking about a release date. I'd be much happier if they clearly addressed this issue and gave us some sort of updated time frame. I enjoy A17 and wouldn't mind starting a new world on it but I don't want to start one now just to have to restart in a week because they finally released A18. I'd just like to know what kind of time frame they were thinking for release. It'd be a much better approach than just blatantly ignoring anyone asking about a release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseLostUK Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Things get set back and unforeseen obstacles can pop up and that's understandable but the biggest issue is that they seem to reply to every comment except for ones asking about a release date. I'd be much happier if they clearly addressed this issue and gave us some sort of updated time frame. I enjoy A17 and wouldn't mind starting a new world on it but I don't want to start one now just to have to restart in a week because they finally released A18. I'd just like to know what kind of time frame they were thinking for release. It'd be a much better approach than just blatantly ignoring anyone asking about a release date. Oh great, it's the release date police again... If any of you had taken the time to actually look through this thread there have been a few comments lately about this very subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Swaggins Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 Oh great, it's the release date police again... If any of you had taken the time to actually look through this thread there have been a few comments lately about this very subject. I've been keeping up with the thread but haven't seen any comments about it. I must have missed them. What did they say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicketness Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 And it starts. Look at it this way we won't have to wait nearly 2 years for the next patch. A16.4 was the longest wait ever. with the way it is being pushed back we should expect a X Mas or later release, at least before the last half of the year. One thing everyone knows is that TFP rarely release when they say and always push it back to make sure they have enough time to test and get rid of major bugs. I would rather have a less buggy patch A17 is good but horrible at the same time. So now we wait. That's my nickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolferz Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 I know its a "when its done", but is there a possibility of having a18 experimental this month? Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 I have to admit I would like to know at least a reasonably accurate approximation too. I put a server online in anticipation of a18 (cause we all stopped playing / hated a17), but then the release was changed from the original estimate. It does cost me $30 a month to keep the damn thing running and I'm not even playing on it myself because I can't stand a17. This is one of the less talked about problems of posting release dates that aren't adhered to. It cost the server owners real money to keep the damn things running. If I had known that your release date wasn't going to be in June as promised I would have turned the server off for 2 months and used the money for something else. Instead now we are in the "indeterminate" release time phase again and I don't know if I should turn it off or not. If I do it may come out next week, if I don't it may come out in 3 months. Please take us into consideration when making these types of arbitrary promises in the future. You may make a lot of money from this but the server owners do not. We do contribute to your sales and popularity by maintaining well run servers. All we ask in return is that you pick a release date and stick to it. It's better to say "sometime in 2019" than to say "by the end of the month". So tell me please, do I turn the damn thing back off again now or is it worth leaving it running because we are very close? Can you at least tell us that much? My servers population won't be happy but they will understand if I turn it off because of a lack of release time info. I would prefer not to disappoint the 40+ people I cater to though, so help me out here. Cheers. Sometime in 2019. Please turn the damn thing off and then turn it back on again after experimental is done and it goes to stable so you don't have to annoy people with frequent wipes. Plus you can try out A18 during experimental to see whether you like it well enough to turn the damn thing back on again before A19. No estimated release date has ever been a promise. The only promise ever given in regards to release dates is that it will be done when it's done. TFP is an indie studio precisely because their independence from executives and board members means they don't have to stick to a release date even if they aren't ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrton Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Sometime in 2019. Please turn the damn thing off and then turn it back on again after experimental is done and it goes to stable so you don't have to annoy people with frequent wipes. Plus you can try out A18 during experimental to see whether you like it well enough to turn the damn thing back on again before A19. No estimated release date has ever been a promise. The only promise ever given in regards to release dates is that it will be done when it's done. TFP is an indie studio precisely because their independence from executives and board members means they don't have to stick to a release date even if they aren't ready. I think it refers to the post at the beginning where it said the end of June and then that was modified, I also told my community possibly late June (when I said so in the post) well now we are almost in the middle of July and I have hopes, in the transmission of Prime, the game was acceptable for an experimental, that reassured me a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 It's looking more and more unlikely for this month but very likely for next month but please realize that they will push it back all the way to Christmas if they feel they need to do so. You cannot rely on release estimates or think of them as promises no matter how much it may sound like a promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravend Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 People can forgive a delayed release. People will not forgive a bad release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 This alpha sounds like it will be epic so any delay is acceptable. They are working on polish so a repeat of A17.0 doesn’t happen. You all remember 17.0?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 I have to admit I would like to know at least a reasonably accurate approximation too. I put a server online in anticipation of a18 (cause we all stopped playing / hated a17), but then the release was changed from the original estimate. It does cost me $30 a month to keep the damn thing running and I'm not even playing on it myself because I can't stand a17. This is one of the less talked about problems of posting release dates that aren't adhered to. It cost the server owners real money to keep the damn things running. If I had known that your release date wasn't going to be in June as promised I would have turned the server off for 2 months and used the money for something else. Instead now we are in the "indeterminate" release time phase again and I don't know if I should turn it off or not. If I do it may come out next week, if I don't it may come out in 3 months. Please take us into consideration when making these types of arbitrary promises in the future. You may make a lot of money from this but the server owners do not. We do contribute to your sales and popularity by maintaining well run servers. All we ask in return is that you pick a release date and stick to it. It's better to say "sometime in 2019" than to say "by the end of the month". So tell me please, do I turn the damn thing back off again now or is it worth leaving it running because we are very close? Can you at least tell us that much? My servers population won't be happy but they will understand if I turn it off because of a lack of release time info. I would prefer not to disappoint the 40+ people I cater to though, so help me out here. Cheers. You should have cancelled your server 6 months ago when you realized you hated 17. We're not shipping any time soon, so you'd be better off cancelling your server and only renting one after you confirm you actually like A18. Sorry for any confusion I might have caused with my ambitious initial post. In the future there will not be any release dates, it will be when its done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaxTeller718 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 What I wouldnt give for any of you to work on a development team for one week and you would understand why asking for dates is ridiculous. Go play something else, my stupid mod has a team of 5 that worked around the clock for 3 months to bring you our latest release. And thats just a MOD. None of you truly know what goes into the development process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUST2DEATH Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 What I wouldnt give for any of you to work on a development team for one week and you would understand why asking for dates is ridiculous. Go play something else, my stupid mod has a team of 5 that worked around the clock for 3 months to bring you our latest release. And thats just a MOD. None of you truly know what goes into the development process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zootal Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 What I wouldnt give for any of you to work on a development team for one week and you would understand why asking for dates is ridiculous. Go play something else, my stupid mod has a team of 5 that worked around the clock for 3 months to bring you our latest release. And thats just a MOD. None of you truly know what goes into the development process. I once worked on a team of about a dozen developers on a product. Management mandated an unrealistic release date. We told management, no, that just can't be done. There was too much work and too much that needed to be done to meet that release date. It just wasn't possible. Management said, yes, you will get it done because we said so. So they had us working overtime and weekends, and they even cancelled vacations (which really p*ssed off a lot of people - never do that to your employees). We busted our butts. We logged bloody hours and hours. And while we had a product ready to deliver by the deadline, it was buggy as hell. And we told management that. Look, says us, it is not ready, it will cause problems. They didn't listen, and they released it. It was a disaster. The product was so buggy they had to recall it within a week. And, typically, management blamed us for this failure. TFP, PLEASE DON'T RELEASE A18 UNTIL IT IS READY! I can wait until next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA_Q2 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 You should have cancelled your server 6 months ago when you realized you hated 17. We're not shipping any time soon, so you'd be better off cancelling your server and only renting one after you confirm you actually like A18. Sorry for any confusion I might have caused with my ambitious initial post. In the future there will not be any release dates, it will be when its done. "In the future there will not be any release dates, it will be when its done." ^this It is clear that dates are not going to be accurate for a myriad of reasons and it is also clear that any date mentioned is going to have some players viewing it as a hard date. Just don't tell us and we can then wine to each other but cant blame you anymore - - - Updated - - - It's looking more and more unlikely for this month but very likely for next month but please realize that they will push it back all the way to Christmas if they feel they need to do so. You cannot rely on release estimates or think of them as promises no matter how much it may sound like a promise. *cry* Leaving for one month in 2 weeks. No 7 days to die fix until AFTER I come back. I am devastated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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