AlyssaFaden Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Can they at least update the descriptions that reference "cold? get around a campfire!" ... because it's just plain misinformation to any newer players. And irksome to a older hand such as myself, who is constantly reminded that building a fire does jack s**t for fending off the cold. Campfire description and the loading screen are the two places I am aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanadon Conners Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I admit that I set myself on fire trying to find that "Sweet spot" for warmth while trying to fight off "Freezing". Let's hope that the Left hand catches up to the Right hand and these things can get fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morloc Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Are you "holding a torch"? Hey...am I dreaming this, or was there a time when you could build a campfire in a small, enclosed structure, and you'd get a more efficient heat radius than if you were just outside? -Morloc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostlight Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Removing heat from campfires is utterly moronic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeraal Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 There's going to be a new perk that let's you make use of the heat from fires. It increases effectiveness with each level and is available starting at level 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2n1 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 There's going to be a new perk that let's you make use of the heat from fires. It increases effectiveness with each level and is available starting at level 20. That is... until you get the perk - fire you will not warm? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestInPieces Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Haven't heard of anything like that, but are you sure they didn't mean removing fire heat for the heatmap and not the actual heat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2n1 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Yes, to hell with it - we are waiting for the really interesting features! for example a perk that will allow you to loot or run to reach a certain level .....or ....or a perk that will allow you to harvest ....so many wonderful game mechanics can still come up! (come on, I'm leaving...) - - - Updated - - - No, wait a minute! I came up with - it is necessary to remove all the other biomes - they still do not need anyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollowprime Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Hold up. The campfire does not provide heat anymore? Is that why I am constantly freezing in the winter biome even though I am next to a campfire? There's going to be a new perk that let's you make use of the heat from fires. It increases effectiveness with each level and is available starting at level 20. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wamplet Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Hold up. The campfire does not provide heat anymore? Is that why I am constantly freezing in the winter biome even though I am next to a campfire? LOL My pal and i just built our base in a snow biome and it looks like the campfire does not provide heat. I'm not sure if it got reduced or removed altogether or a bug. I tested my temp by standing right next to it and then about 7 blocks away and there was no change in temp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fallenbox Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Lol why tf do they keep removing stuff from the game ? i really hope this is a bug tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2n1 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Lol why tf do they keep removing stuff from the game ? i really hope this is a bug tho - "because it's not interesting to anyone" (RR) MM (the truth is, i've heard that it's just not working yet due to the fact that he did not finish, it's not forever.... may be ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsy29 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Let's hope that the Left hand catches up to the Right hand and these things can get fixed prepaidgiftbalance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weazelsun Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Pretty sure, the actual heat from the campfire is more of a reduced radius where you essentially have to be right up to it. Unless, you'd like it back to the A16.4 days where you could be in an enclosed room with a campfire and essentially raise your temp to basicially overheating status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipClaw Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Pretty sure, the actual heat from the campfire is more of a reduced radius where you essentially have to be right up to it. I tested it yesterday. I stood one block away from the campfire and the temperature didn't change. The same with the forge and the chemistry station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolJ Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 The problem is that it now gives you a certain amount to cold insulation. You still have to have clothes on. Torches work the same way now. Indoors temps are fully segregated from outdoor temps. If you are naked, then you need to be in a shelter and a certain distance away from all outside doors and windows to be considered "indoors". A campfire is unlikely to help in that situation now. It also will not overheat you in your crafting room while you have a forge or a campfire running like it used too. Though I think most of us just stood in a puddle of water to get around that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 It's a bug. The forge and and the campfire should have a warming AOE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyetr Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 There's going to be a new perk that let's you make use of the heat from fires. It increases effectiveness with each level and is available starting at level 20. Im just gonna say something we all want to say, TFP went Perk Crazy! They perked everything. If what you say is true, and I have no clue if it is or not, then i believe TFP have lost their minds. Like, as if IRL youd need to learn to "harness" the heat of a campfire and as if IRL a new born baby couldn't sit next to a fire and be like "wahhhh, thats hot af, move me bitch, im a baby and can't move!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyetr Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 It's a bug. The forge and and the campfire should have a warming AOE. Thank god its a bug. But it IS kind of confusing to us normal players not in the constant forum usage loop. We can't tell if its a bug or not because its not listed on the "known issues" of either 17 17.1 or 17.2's notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Im just gonna say something we all want to say, TFP went Perk Crazy! They perked everything. If what you say is true, and I have no clue if it is or not, then i believe TFP have lost their minds. Like, as if IRL youd need to learn to "harness" the heat of a campfire and as if IRL a new born baby couldn't sit next to a fire and be like "wahhhh, thats hot af, move me bitch, im a baby and can't move!" Actually a newborn baby couldn't sit next to a fire and say those things. Newborn babies lack the core strength to sit upright and they lack the knowledge to vocalize their thoughts into words. That baby would flop over onto its back or stomach before simply crying. That baby definitely would need to purchase a few perks before being able to do as you described. Also Jeraal was joking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Thank god its a bug. But it IS kind of confusing to us normal players not in the constant forum usage loop. We can't tell if its a bug or not because its not listed on the "known issues" of either 17 17.1 or 17.2's notes. The next question, then, is "Has it been reported in the bug thread?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrix Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Right now, "block buffs" (campfire) require standing on/within them to trigger. There's several buff notes implying a block buff overhaul is underway... I'd imagine this includes sexiness like actual buff "range" for blocks. That would solve this problem and open a million or so new possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyetr Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 The next question, then, is "Has it been reported in the bug thread?" A good question. But I mean, do we really need to create a bug thread to alert TFP to the fact that Campfires don't give off heat? Bug threads are usually posted to raise awareness to an issue, maybe have some of the public confirm their same issues, have somebody from the Dev team and or their Debug Team check it out, try to reproduce it, then once reproduced call it a bug and not an isolated instance, THEN and only then is it usually considered a known issue.. Just seems silly that we need to create a Bug thread for something 100% of the players are experiencing, and most likely 75% notice RIGHT off the bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 A good question. But I mean, do we really need to create a bug thread to alert TFP to the fact that Campfires don't give off heat? Bug threads are usually posted to raise awareness to an issue, maybe have some of the public confirm their same issues, have somebody from the Dev team and or their Debug Team check it out, try to reproduce it, then once reproduced call it a bug and not an isolated instance, THEN and only then is it usually considered a known issue.. Just seems silly that we need to create a Bug thread for something 100% of the players are experiencing, and most likely 75% notice RIGHT off the bat. There is already a bug thread created. No need for a new one. That bug thread is filled with reports of people experiencing things not on the known issues list that they believe is not right with the game. The internal testers then either respond that it is intended that way, or that they will see if they can reproduce and create a ticket. So if you notice something you believe to be bugged. Post on the already existing thread what you experienced. Whether it seems silly that everyone SHOULD notice it is immaterial. If you look through the bugs and don't see it reported and it hasn't been on the known list for 3 updates then do it. If that sounds tedious and uninteresting to read the reports and then make one yourself then don't and just wait for someone else to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolJ Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 There is already a bug thread created. No need for a new one. That bug thread is filled with reports of people experiencing things not on the known issues list that they believe is not right with the game. The internal testers then either respond that it is intended that way, or that they will see if they can reproduce and create a ticket. So if you notice something you believe to be bugged. Post on the already existing thread what you experienced. Whether it seems silly that everyone SHOULD notice it is immaterial. If you look through the bugs and don't see it reported and it hasn't been on the known list for 3 updates then do it. If that sounds tedious and uninteresting to read the reports and then make one yourself then don't and just wait for someone else to do it. How is it possible that you think this is a bug? It is clear the mechanics of how campfires warm the character were changed to a different style that makes use of the new insulation system. If there is a bug, the bug is the campfire does not provide enough cold insulation. So this is really not a bug. It is a user request that the campfire cold insulation value be set to a higher number. For all we know, it was set to the current value intentionally. Let's be honest, I don't see a campfire keeping a person warm in that environment when they are completely nude. The current cold insulation value of the campfire is quite substantial already. Is it intended that we are to be provided a notification icon for the status effect? If so, there may be reason for a bug report. Otherwise, I don't really think one is warranted. The player is temperature protected for quite a long time at the start of the game. If they haven't made clothes or shelter of any kind and continued to stay in the snow area for that extended period, why should they not get cold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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