Damocles Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I would opt for the body just ash with some blood after awhile. Something like: and just leave an ash/bloody decal outline on the block it was laying on. Just my pick is all That would at least leave SOMETHING behind. Not just fresh air and a fading memory.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 That would at least leave SOMETHING behind. Not just fresh air and a fading memory.... hehe, I've been pushing the decal option for awhile. I just hope they pick up on it, or something at least.. Right now I just get a "That's it?!" feeling every time I kill a zombie It get's even worse after a big wandering horde is dispatched, or horde night happens.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecv Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 For me, since I got the headshot perk, they are completely disappearing after being shot in the head. No corpse to harvest. This has happened with vultures, dogs, wolves, dire wolves, pigs and even Grace thus far. They no longer act even remotely like zombies, they are well-organized demolitions experts with X-ray vision who magically know more about the structural integrity of my base than I do. Well, just see it as the most intelligent zombie the game can create currently. Dumbing it down and removing abilities is easy most of the time, dunno how the behavior is coded in this game of course I'm happy with the funny death animations, like slumping over, but some sort of remnants of dead zombies would be interesting. Small pile of intestines, small patch of blood. Ribcage. Having some visual victory after a long hordenight. Seas of blood. Mountains of skulls! But please do not make them lootable again. I'm done with playing cleanup crew :') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaVegaNL Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 About the same chance as me sleeping with you and Roland in the next two months. Great! Looking forward to A17.3 and A18 then - - - Updated - - - Caught between a rock and a hard place :-) You know.. Geologists make the bedrock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaVegaNL Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I updated the main post: New Dynamic Music System (DMS) Its been in the works for a long time and the first version is finally here. We now have a dynamic music system that plays a variety of tracks and can combine them so you never hear the same song twice. Right now they only play during exploration or a non combat moments. Future updates will detect your threat level and introduce combat music. Users can disable the system entirely or define what percentage of the day music can play for and adjust the music volume. Very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_ombie Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 That would at least leave SOMETHING behind. Not just fresh air and a fading memory.... Totally agree. The corpse only needs to flash before vanishing and it be a something lifted from Mario. The David Blaine effect in a 2019 game looks blatantly naff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyth Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I always wanted a cd player of sorts you could find and load music from disk to play sound at your base. It's available as an SDX mod Sphereii and I made for the WinterProject. Feel free to load it into your test games, but you might want to swap out the Christmas media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectral Force Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I updated the main post: New Dynamic Music System (DMS) Its been in the works for a long time and the first version is finally here. We now have a dynamic music system that plays a variety of tracks and can combine them so you never hear the same song twice. Right now they only play during exploration or a non combat moments. Future updates will detect your threat level and introduce combat music. Users can disable the system entirely or define what percentage of the day music can play for and adjust the music volume. Will this work for say modding our own music in to use with radios? I'm working on a radio mod, just have to add a little animation and do the sound editing for the current way to implement it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrex Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Heya Madmole, couple things I wanted to ask. 1) in a video you did in the past you introduced a way to choose from a radial menu (or a blocks shape menu similar to Empyrion) where you can choose the shape you want the block to be -- versus just creating that specific block we need, like we do now. Is there any mention of this coming to light or was that idea can-x'd. I imagine it would be hard to do, maybe, with the different tiers of blocks (wood, iron, steel, concrete, etc) but thought I'd ask. 2) Any new block shapes or textures/paints in the works? 3) Any way to make the hitbox of the workbench slightly smaller so that we can paint under/behind/beside it. Right now there's no room to get the brush to paint in those areas unless you pick up the workbench, paint, replace workbench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gronk Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Will this work for say modding our own music in to use with radios? I'm working on a radio mod, just have to add a little animation and do the sound editing for the current way to implement it. From what I can tell with the brief description it's a generative music system for the ambient background instead of a traditional playlist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generative_music If they open the base tracks and generation algorithm to xml then you could possibly mix your own. For combat I'd just have Donna Summer's "I feel love" on a loop. Seriously, try it. It's better than the "Guile theme" for fitting in with any action sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowydeath Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 When it comes to music. I really like the way you implemented this (with options to tweak in game!!!) that being said. I want a radio in the game too. One with a radio host that o can listen to in the morning right after sun up. A little wasteland radio host piping up about events that have happened or just random stuff, then some music playing for a bit before he logs off for the day. I’d mod the crap outta that and make my own little radio host with news and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpcstargate Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 @ Fun Pimps .. Good day I SURE Hope you are working on the Maps .. RandomGen is terrible and even Nave is not all that great anymore, but it is better than RandomGen. So much went bad on the generation of maps in A 17 .. it is SO Hard to believe it was the same Game. But Thank you for a FUN Game .. having over 3600 hours in it between Vanilla and Modded .. the Old Gamer .. PS: Please bring back Stainless Steel as a standard .. AND .. maybe Wireless Junction Boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 Kurt Russell didn't coin the phrase. It has been used in the military for *long* before Kurt Russell did any acting. (yes I am playing catch-up today) Yep, but he mainstreamed it to noobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareee Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I updated the main post: New Dynamic Music System (DMS) Its been in the works for a long time and the first version is finally here. We now have a dynamic music system that plays a variety of tracks and can combine them so you never hear the same song twice. Right now they only play during exploration or a non combat moments. Future updates will detect your threat level and introduce combat music. Users can disable the system entirely or define what percentage of the day music can play for and adjust the music volume. YAY! Music can add a lot of immersion. Please have it play mp3s or some other easily converted format so we can swap in our own music, and allow servers to push it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacepiggio Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Well duh, anyone born before 2000 should probably knows what fubar means. I remember when Kurt Russell coined the phrase. What I meant why does he think the zombies AI is fubar? Actually I think it is getting better, when you ride tooooo close to a Z on the Bicycle & run out of Stamina they should be able to grab you off of it. Got my Back Injection last week, feel it comin back in the tail bone, hope it keeps me from feelin FUBAR...for a little while at least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareee Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Instead of making the zombies vanish after being killed, have them leave a low poly corpse. Every single game I know of makes them disappear for performance reasons. Even the new World War Z game does the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Blue Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Well duh, anyone born before 2000 should probably knows what fubar means. I remember when Kurt Russell coined the phrase. Kurt Russell didn't coin the phrase. It has been used in the military for *long* before Kurt Russell did any acting. Actually, Kalex. MM go it right on at least 2 counts: "Coin the phrase" 1: Originally meant to create. And your response assumes this. Although that definition is now dated. 2. Literally. That movie did literally make some coin from that phrase. Don't know how much, but there are a lot of vids that link the two. 3. Current definition. Google the phrase "Coin the phrase". You will learn that it is used mostly in a ironic or sarcastic way these days. And maybe the movie was the FIRST to do that. Literally. That would certainly fit with Kurt Russell the actor, his character, and the movie. And, it would certainly work if that is the way MadMole had intended it. The only way to know that would have been to ask him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 Instead of making the zombies vanish after being killed, have them leave a low poly corpse. That does not need to be some gore block. It can be non interactive (no looting) And can account for local destiny (dont spawn more than a certain number per area). And could vanish if any block nearby changes (placed or removed). It should suffice to have one inanimate model per zombie model in a standard pose. (curled up lying face down). Non animated, low poly low res, short distance LOD models dont take a whole lot of resources. I really dont like that sudden vanishing of corpses. And if there are gameplay problems with corpses (gore blocks, too much loot, slowing down player) just dont have them interactable. And make them removable like grass with a simple smack. Having the remains of previous battles really improves the impression of a dynamic and alive world. It shows history of a location. Suddenly vanishing large entites do not. It feels arcady. They might as well blink before vanishing like in an oldscool sidescoller then.. (For weaker clients there can always be the option to turn persistent corpses off, as they dont have a specific gameplay effect).But it runs faster deleting old entities and is good for game play to have a sense of urgency to harvest it. All games despawn dead stuff eventually, we just can't afford them as long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowydeath Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Making the corpses stay longer than necessary (to validate they're dead instead of stunned) eats up unnecessary resources that could be used elsewhere in game. Although adding the option to have persistent corpses for say 120 seconds or longer would allow people who wanna see the mess they made happy while allowing us who don't care because we're too immersed with the game or have a back story made up. (Mine is that these walking corpses are a side effect of a drug the military was experimenting with that increases combatant performance but, if they die without the antidote (given upon mission completion) their bodies disintegrate so that enemies cannot steal their new tech) or something like that. which just makes their strengths and disappearing more and more immersive. I like to make stuff up as I go so a lot of what I say is thought up on the spot (like that little story) and it helps me write the story for my RPG. TL;DR A setting may help people who wanna see dead bodies longer, and I just make up a story that explains why they disappear and are strong asf to make the game super immersive (more so than it already is)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankitas Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I would opt for the body just ash with some blood after awhile. Something like: and just leave an ash/bloody decal outline on the block it was laying on. Just my pick is all Thanks Thanos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti2xGr Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Having the remains of previous battles really improves the impression of a dynamic and alive world. It shows history of a location. Suddenly vanishing large entites do not. It feels arcady. They might as well blink before vanishing like in an oldscool sidescoller then.. I'd like to see the bodies at least show a "dissolving or melting into the ground" animation vs. just disappearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josefdarks Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Where's Waldo? Check out the new ghillie suit and M60! nice suit to give a scare to the zombies open something like this in the game a gas mask 40 united estates why the game missing gas mask and nothing better what to put a mask from himself estate the game I like it but this is missing good to know that are going to put armors if it's not too much to ask Mr. Madmole put gas masks finally this is apocalipse can not miss masks for all the rest his game it is a work by hart link https://img.letgo.com/images/b0/d0/5e/54/b0d05e54a9c37573fde7dce158807ec5.jpeg?impolicy=img_600 link https://www.google.com/search?q=gas+mask+m40&tbm=isch&tbs=rimg:CUEmywrlyvTeIjhXaW8WA98dKug9_1HRB-97BOBqnPxw9coULVvbZFRJaMOTcazcSi6Jm_11v_1-CXPceG6E4GLPjRL8SoSCVdpbxYD3x0qEa_1hUPt2cEx0KhIJ6D38dEH73sER62b9ndO8hVkqEgk4Gqc_1HD1yhRG_1as3eTddWIioSCQtW9tkVElowEcr0eK-y0dmMKhIJ5NxrNxKLomYRxEhfEeTOQRQqEgn_1W_1_14Jc9x4RH1dwqcb-q3pyoSCboTgYs-NEvxEXMfiP0uBybU&tbo=u&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiyuvSAwubhAhWyAmMBHZCXDKMQ9C96BAgBEBs&biw=1360&bih=623&dpr=1#imgrc=Rjoaspk6S0WP9M: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 Will this work for say modding our own music in to use with radios? I'm working on a radio mod, just have to add a little animation and do the sound editing for the current way to implement it. Cool stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmole Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 Heya Madmole, couple things I wanted to ask. 1) in a video you did in the past you introduced a way to choose from a radial menu (or a blocks shape menu similar to Empyrion) where you can choose the shape you want the block to be -- versus just creating that specific block we need, like we do now. Is there any mention of this coming to light or was that idea can-x'd. I imagine it would be hard to do, maybe, with the different tiers of blocks (wood, iron, steel, concrete, etc) but thought I'd ask. 2) Any new block shapes or textures/paints in the works? 3) Any way to make the hitbox of the workbench slightly smaller so that we can paint under/behind/beside it. Right now there's no room to get the brush to paint in those areas unless you pick up the workbench, paint, replace workbench. 1, We would like to, but we'll see how things go. 2, I think so, but I don't know if players will access them. 3, Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khzmusik Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 The problem is some other player on the same server would have access to the repaired workstations and not be able to do those same quests. To break them so some other guy can do the quest again doesn't make a lot of sense. Others seem to have run with this idea in directions I didn't intend... which is fine, just not what I was thinking about. For me, the primary point of the quest was to repair the broken "crafting helper" object.* So, why would it be a problem that other players couldn't do the same quest? One player could do it and everyone gets the benefits. (Even the XP if quest XP is shared, which I think it is?) It wouldn't be much different than one player specializing, so that they craft a workbench sooner than everyone else in the group. Either way one person does it and the whole group benefits. I do admit it may have an impact on PvP play, but only insofar as you're also giving your enemies the same advantage (working stuff at the trader) that you enjoy. I don't know if that's a "problem" so much as a tactical decision. ...Of course I'm not married to this idea, it was just a suggestion. If you decide not to implement it, for whatever reason, I won't be too upset. * Is there a name for these that I don't know about? One general term that refers to workbenches, forges, cement mixers, etc.? Looked in the Wiki and didn't see anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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