Greymantle Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 This has been going on since version 12 and I have lost faith in them fixing this. Maybe hire an expert on bug squashing? On my dedicated server have lost many vehicles so far I have had to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djones Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 It seems that it's a problem with dynamic entities being left in unattended world chunks which are unloaded. If you leave a vehicle unattended (i.e. no players near the chunk), then leave that chunk such that the game unloads it, the vehicle will still appear on the compass and map, but when you travel back to it and the chunk reloads, it will delete the vehicle instantly and anything in it. It won't drop it's inventory, it will cease to be. If you're going to leave the chunk, pick your vehicle up and put it in a chest or your inventory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greymantle Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 It seems that it's a problem with dynamic entities being left in unattended world chunks which are unloaded. If you leave a vehicle unattended (i.e. no players near the chunk), then leave that chunk such that the game unloads it, the vehicle will still appear on the compass and map, but when you travel back to it and the chunk reloads, it will delete the vehicle instantly and anything in it. It won't drop it's inventory, it will cease to be. If you're going to leave the chunk, pick your vehicle up and put it in a chest or your inventory. This makes sense in that the last two bikes I lost where when I died. When I got back to my pack which was over 1K away from my bind spot the bike was gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faatal Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 The VehicleManager was doing a save every 2 minutes. If you placed a vehicle and shutdown the server (quit in single player) before that save happened it would be lost. These fixes will be in the next version: Fixed SDTD-9585 If a server is restarted shortly after placing a vehicle, the vehicle will disappear (added save on shutdown). Added VehicleManager saves when vehicles added or removed (with short delay and increased timed save delay). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faatal Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 To disappear completely, the game must actively deleted it. A strange choice by the programmers ... For the position, it should not be so hard to find "some" position in the world to place it savely without bugging through the terrain. If it fell though, just place it somewhere nearby ontop of the terrain again... Worst case, turn off the physics, until a user activates it again. There is already code that does that. Pushes it up to the surface. Could be something with chunks unloading and no surface to be found, but the vehicle should despawn in that case and be saved by the VehicleManager, which then respawns when the chuck loads. Maybe that respawn has a bug. I'll have to test that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faatal Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I've often lost vehicles after exploring parts of the map. Usually a day of looting and such. I get home and sometimes want to take a break [irl] and save the game. Come back and vehicle is gone. I find sometimes when I retrace my steps I'll find the vehicle somewhere where I've been that day. So.... Probably the 2 minute save timer. Was saved, you moved, exited and never saved in new position. Should be fixed in the next version. Edit: Actually, looking at the code in the version you have, it looks like the vehicle should be saved in single player on exit. Exit does a bunch of stuff before saving vehicles, so an error could stop the save. I assume you did not have an error or you would of mentioned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faatal Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Fixed vehicle out of world check using different positions for chunk and terrain tests, so vehicles could get killed and removed Kill. The code that pushes an underground vehicle up could look in an adjacent unloaded chunk if the vehicle was tilted and think it was underground, but find no ground above and then just killed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullpoker Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I just lost my minibike. It was there when I logged out. Gone when I logged in. - P If a vehicle is gone when you log in, immediately CTRL+ALT+DEL, Task Manager, End Process to prevent saving. Now reload your game and it might be back. If not, Task Manager and End Process again... I lost a minibike on Continue and was able to restore it this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrkana Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 If a vehicle is gone when you log in, immediately CTRL+ALT+DEL, Task Manager, End Process to prevent saving. Now reload your game and it might be back. If not, Task Manager and End Process again... I lost a minibike on Continue and was able to restore it this way. why not just spawn one in? it would be much easier and less time consuming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostlight Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 why not just spawn one in? it would be much easier and less time consuming Only server hosts can do that and only if debug menu is turned on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrkana Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Only server hosts can do that and only if debug menu is turned on. the way he was talking its his game so he can and debug mode is easy to turn on in game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stasis78 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 What I’ve noticed is that they almost always are moving after you get out of them. If you always stop the vehicle using the brakes then exit it never moves after you get out. At least in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 My husband made a garage for our vehicles. We parked them in there for the upcoming horde, his jeep and my motorcycle. It was there when we started the horde and after the horde, but when we logged in the next day, it was gone. SO frustrating. This is the second motorcycle that has just vanished on me. We checked LE and it was not listed. It is just gone. I am so bummed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faatal Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 What I’ve noticed is that they almost always are moving after you get out of them. If you always stop the vehicle using the brakes then exit it never moves after you get out. At least in my experience. Yes, they keep moving if you jump out of one just like in real life. They would also roll if you jumped out on an incline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faatal Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 My husband made a garage for our vehicles. We parked them in there for the upcoming horde, his jeep and my motorcycle. It was there when we started the horde and after the horde, but when we logged in the next day, it was gone. SO frustrating. This is the second motorcycle that has just vanished on me. We checked LE and it was not listed. It is just gone. I am so bummed. Hopefully one of the fixes I made will prevent that happening in the future. To replace a lost vehicle: Open console using F1 key. Type dm then enter key. Look at an open space on the ground. Press F6 key and click a vehicle button to spawn a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Great_Sephiroth Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I have never lost a vehicle in 7 Days. Not in A15 or A16. Today I took off on my new motorcycle (why does that V8 death machine sound like my Harley?) and looted a few spots. Turned around, came home, and the bicycle was GONE. Nowhere to be found. So I can finally say I lost a vehicle. It was just sitting when I left and gone when I returned. First vehicle loss ever. Just wanted to add my experience to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyStar Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Probably the 2 minute save timer. Was saved, you moved, exited and never saved in new position. Should be fixed in the next version. Edit: Actually, looking at the code in the version you have, it looks like the vehicle should be saved in single player on exit. Exit does a bunch of stuff before saving vehicles, so an error could stop the save. I assume you did not have an error or you would of mentioned it. I wonder if I should force a save before exiting and just sit a few seconds to make sure it's all done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moeghund Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I have had a few bikes and minibikes being deleted by the game but once it was launched 900 meters in the air and stuck there untill I flew up and sat on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrook Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Friend had the Gyro spontaneously despawn when he was flying it - resulted in him dropping from high height. I wasn't on so missed the scream - but it was worth it to imagine it so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostlight Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Hopefully one of the fixes I made will prevent that happening in the future. When will we see this fix? It is probably not so but I feel that this problem is actually getting worse by the day. I lost 2 more motorbikes last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hek Harris Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Friend had the Gyro spontaneously despawn when he was flying it - resulted in him dropping from high height. I wasn't on so missed the scream - but it was worth it to imagine it so. I would have loved a video made by the pilot: D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KusiPussi Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 On our ded server several bicycles and minibikes have suddenly stuck high up in the sky. So if you seem to lose a bike, yet see the icon for it, look up. The damn thing can be hundreds of blocks high up, just sitting up there. Had to use cheat mode and fly up to grab the thing back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punchdrunk Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 My bicycle dissapears every single time I logout of the game. Motorbike I've only made once, but it did the same. I just use the console to spawn a new bicycle, but I don't know how to do that with the motorbike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedu Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 My bicycle dissapears every single time I logout of the game. Motorbike I've only made once, but it did the same. I just use the console to spawn a new bicycle, but I don't know how to do that with the motorbike type 'cm' into console to enter creative mode and exit console, push u to bring up creative menu. search for motor bike. if you want to match quality, just refresh search until you get a match in quality. drag to your inventory then turn off creative mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungryZombie Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Are the vehicles disappearing a multiplayer only thing? Has anyone lost one in a single player game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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