gcomerfo Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Someone fill me on the heat created by candles versus torches... it always seems that candles draw more heat when I am stealthed, than they should... But I thought the whole point of candles was to make dimmer, subtle light to not draw attention and not blow out your eyeballs with nuclear bright light. And, also, why don't candles give light when you hold them anymore?? They used to be so nice looking as you walked in dark - now it has no light in hand so that you can't even see where you are placing it in a dark room! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gronk Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 It's light that causes the zombie to see you, it has a direct affect on your stealth-meter. The human eye can see a single candle flame from two miles away in the dark so trying to stealth while holding a light source is futile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildaxeman1 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Someone fill me on the heat created by candles versus torches... it always seems that candles draw more heat when I am stealthed, than they should... But I thought the whole point of candles was to make dimmer, subtle light to not draw attention and not blow out your eyeballs with nuclear bright light. And, also, why don't candles give light when you hold them anymore?? They used to be so nice looking as you walked in dark - now it has no light in hand so that you can't even see where you are placing it in a dark room! holding torch makes you visible to z's, not generating much heat. capp0 made video about that, looks like torches has small heat value. i do not know about candles, i never use them. edit: you beat me, Gronk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalarro Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 So having lots of torches in a closed room doesnt attract them anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalarro Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I searched the video and torches do indeed generate a lot of heat even without visibility, it just takes a while: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildaxeman1 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I searched the video and torches do indeed generate a lot of heat even without visibility, it just takes a while: you are right, i did not see that video. so torches actually rise heat lvl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylenThunder Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 you are right, i did not see that video. so torches actually rise heat lvl. It's not anything new. They did this in a16 also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadamier Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Has anyone reviewed the xml's? I know their complex in that the item xml doesn't contain all the info as some 'heat' info can be also contained within the sound xml. But then again it can be hard coded. I seem to think that one version of the candle apparently doesn't generate heat; make a candle and make a 'table candle'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcomerfo Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 ...and make a 'table candle'? Oh, yeah and what the heck exactly is a "table candle" and why do we need it?? does it give no heat/light?? - - - Updated - - - Right, but it seems like candles draw same level of attention as torches, or no?? Usually, though, I'm not even holding it, but just standing next to it on a wall or candle sealed indoors... and stealth meter goes to like 30-40?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimrod201 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Candles give less heat to the Heatmap than torches: "candleWallLightPlayer" <property name="HeatMapStrength" value="1"/> "wallTorchLightPlayer" <property name="HeatMapStrength" value="4.05"/> Table candle would give the same heat as a wall candle, if you manage to place a candle on a table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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