Kostriktor Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 weapon parts were one of my favourite aspects of the game. i always thought; these devs are actual geniuses ! of course if im survival the zombie apocalypse and find two of the same weapons, i gonna disassemble them in the night, in the safty of my bunker, first of to clean them, and secondly to assemble the best parts to an actual working tool of surviving. i felt hurt like a flake of snow when i read this in the patchnews.... i hope we can mod this back in or something ? :,( kind regards EDIT: what botheres me the most are; the devs calling it "TEDIOUS weapon parts system" ... tedious ? how can you call something so brilliant, "tedious" ?? im very disappointed whilst being hyped for all the other stuff ! EDIT 2: im realizing more and more that this completed screwed up the experience... i can now simply craft an auger/chainsaw. it was once so exciting to find all those parts to then finally be able to have a chainsaw! what is even worse is the vehicles part of the thing... we had enginges of different qualities for different performances of machines using an engine. now? didnt craft yet anything using an engine, but its obviously all same performance now... absolutely disappointed. i dont know how you devs got convinced to remove something so superior. guess you got fagged by all these forumcriers. and now im part of those myself ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deceptive Pastry Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I've already modded them back in, expanded mod slots on weapons and made them mods where essentially the gun doesn't work without them installed. It's not quite the same but eh, close. Haven't released it on the mod forums yet, still sorting out some bugs, but soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostriktor Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 thanks man ! appreciate ! its just so immersing when you have all your gun parts and can assemble a crappy gun for when you go on a risky quest or use the absolute best of best you have when defending base. just amazing thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadpickle Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Modders will, I hope, make this game great again, after TFP are done drowning the baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowydeath Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 They should have weapon parts and weapon maintenance (remove repair kits from repairing them and make it to where you have to disassemble them and clean/maintain the parts separately!) it would be cool, but I bet a Moder could do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostlight Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 weapon parts were one of my favourite aspects of the game. i always thought; these devs are actual geniuses ! of course if im survival the zombie apocalypse and find two of the same weapons, i gonna disassemble them in the night, in the safty of my bunker, first of to clean them, and secondly to assemble the best parts to an actual working tool of surviving. i felt hurt like a flake of snow when i read this in the patchnews.... i hope we can mod this back in or something ? :,( kind regards Don't worry the endgame of searching for gun parts to progress has been replaced by the search for......drum roll....Bones and Gunpowder! Gameplay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostriktor Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 i edited the main post so i just bump this. were playing this on a server i rent, were having a blast ! the game is so enjoyable despite maybe not the best of performances. the crafting system seems great, eating 20 boars every hour is a bit less, but were having fun hunting. chopping trees, now this, my dears, is TEDIOUS ! anyways im working on these xml files to rebalance all to our likings. (cant seem to find a hunger drain multiplier or something alike) (also i dont find a movement speed multiplier) under the line were super happy playing this, considering the actual videogame insdustries state, this 7daystodie counts toward the best titles you can play 2018 and probably 2019. still, missing weapon parts badly, that was like the iconic memory to this title; WEAPON PARTS like in no other game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryonSmothers Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 I've already modded them back in, expanded mod slots on weapons and made them mods where essentially the gun doesn't work without them installed. It's not quite the same but eh, close. Haven't released it on the mod forums yet, still sorting out some bugs, but soon. I know this was posted only 6 days ago but wondering how the adding weapons parts back to the game is going. It one of the features I miss the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deceptive Pastry Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 I know this was posted only 6 days ago but wondering how the adding weapons parts back to the game is going. It one of the features I miss the most. Probably going to release it in 1-2 more days. Haven't had too much time to play lately, but mostly just tweaking loot containers/part spawn rates at this point. It works a little differently than the old part system, but it's as close as I could get with sticking to XML only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrkana Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 because it was soo fun to have an entire chest full of gunparts that I couldnt sell because the trader didn't want 5 shotgun barrels Not only did you need the parts but you needed to be lucky and find the book for the gun. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deceptive Pastry Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 because it was soo fun to have an entire chest full of gunparts that I couldnt sell because the trader didn't want 5 shotgun barrels Not only did you need the parts but you needed to be lucky and find the book for the gun. Good luck More loot variety = looting is more interesting. Weapons + parts that slowly degraded over time plus weapon + part quality mattering more meant always searching for ever-better parts which added to the sense of progression when you found one. Now you get a Q2-3 weapon before day 7 and you're pretty much set with that weapon for a long time...you have mods to find still, but not really sure how that's any different in terms of needing to be lucky. The RNG is still there. I say why not mods and parts, and parts that improve weapons like a higher quality magazine increasing magazine size, or higher quality barrels increasing range/accuracy. Don't remember what parts scrapped to before because I was usually a pack rat, but now if you can't sell them you can at least get a few mechanical parts out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktoriusiii Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 because it was soo fun to have an entire chest full of gunparts that I couldnt sell because the trader didn't want 5 shotgun barrels Not only did you need the parts but you needed to be lucky and find the book for the gun. Good luck wtf xD scrap them! now they give mechanical parts! I scrap whole weapons now as low level weapons aren't worth anything anyways. How ANYONE can argue against weaponparts (especially since the new changes make them even more viable) Do you REALLY like to have 5 lvl 1 pistols more than 2 pistols where you can change out all the bad and good parts and have a good pistol and one bad one afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryonSmothers Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 because it was soo fun to have an entire chest full of gunparts that I couldnt sell because the trader didn't want 5 shotgun barrels Not only did you need the parts but you needed to be lucky and find the book for the gun. Good luck It was fun and I never had problems finding books. I was the gunsmith in the team till they made this update in to a mmo grindfest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katitof Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Weapon parts were a chore, random one. Your item was as durable as the weakest part. It made RNG that much worse for you. Current implementation of mods is how it should always have been, together with expansion of it in the future, where base item is usable, but nowhere near excelling and you can just. Mods serve the same purpose as parts plus much more as they allow you actual customization of an item. And no, "lets have both" would be a bad solution, because mods make parts a redundant feature since they have the exact same purpose, except one allows infinite possibilities and other is locked and unbendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Holo- Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I miss the old system with finding parts, both for guns and for engines, it was more rewarding to finally be able to assemble a gun, even more fun if it had good stats, now theres guns everywhere to loot, making looting less needing. Needing to work a just a tiny bit to find a firearm made the earlygame much more fun and added natural feeling of challenge, instead of kill 2000 zombies and learn how to craft a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadamier Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 weapon parts were one of my favourite aspects of the game. i always thought; these devs are actual geniuses ! of course if im survival the zombie apocalypse and find two of the same weapons, i gonna disassemble them in the night, in the safty of my bunker, first of to clean them, and secondly to assemble the best parts to an actual working tool of surviving. i felt hurt like a flake of snow when i read this in the patchnews.... i hope we can mod this back in or something ? :,( kind regards EDIT: what botheres me the most are; the devs calling it "TEDIOUS weapon parts system" ... tedious ? how can you call something so brilliant, "tedious" ?? im very disappointed whilst being hyped for all the other stuff ! EDIT 2: im realizing more and more that this completed screwed up the experience... i can now simply craft an auger/chainsaw. it was once so exciting to find all those parts to then finally be able to have a chainsaw! what is even worse is the vehicles part of the thing... we had enginges of different qualities for different performances of machines using an engine. now? didnt craft yet anything using an engine, but its obviously all same performance now... absolutely disappointed. i dont know how you devs got convinced to remove something so superior. guess you got fagged by all these forumcriers. and now im part of those myself ffs I too miss them. Apparently a lot of people complained about having a tonne of parts... But what do we have now? A tonne of useless weapons that the traitor wont buy... At least with the parts the traitor would buy them! Now they're just collecting dust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcomerfo Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I miss them too. I also missed it when the got rid of gun molds, where we had to make parts. But, hey look on the bright side... at least now you can dye things "Ridiculous Red", "Obnoxious Orange", "Hulk Greeeeen", and "Blue Man Group, Blue". I really like all the cartoonish colors I can make things.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktoriusiii Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 But, hey look on the bright side... at least now you can dye things "Ridiculous Red", "Obnoxious Orange", "Hulk Greeeeen", and "Blue Man Group, Blue". I really like all the cartoonish colors I can make things.... dont forget color gives damage! So that is a much more deep and intricate system now! ... wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostriktor Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 great would've been to add "modules" to the single "weapon parts". ie; a silencer for a barrel, a red dyed barrel ! ie; a second grip ie; a dampener for the stock ie; a firerate-increaser for the gun-parts there's an unthinkable amount of features you could personalize and dye your weapon with, and get in love and immersed with it. the gun-books also had to go. i know how to assemble guns irl, but then im supposed not to know ingame? also please let us attach flashlights with ducttape to ANYTHING, be it a weapon, a shoulder-plate (has yet to be implemented lol) and especially the headgear ! also maybe add some more flashlights as it is something you find in almost every house/car irl. flashlights with led for a strong white light and maybe oldschool ones as well. oh and batteries ! and modules for flashlights ! you have the perfect piece of game to go totally crazy on all apocalyptic aspects, instead you remove features to please the audience with lower IQ. why ? EDIT: we finally found a shotgun messiah store. we always wanted to find a gunstore and loot that. you know what happened ? we didnt even bother because "i can make better guns anyways, lets get this quest done". so sad i think you took a great game from me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackss Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 we finally found a shotgun messiah store. we always wanted to find a gunstore and loot that. you know what happened ? we didnt even bother because "i can make better guns anyways, lets get this quest done". so sad i think you took a great game from me... The Shotgun Messiah crates have a good chance for finding the mods that make those better guns worthwhile. A purple gun is only better in that it needs less repair and can hold more mods. You literally skipped the new and better gun parts system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrkana Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 The Shotgun Messiah crates have a good chance for finding the mods that make those better guns worthwhile. A purple gun is only better in that it needs less repair and can hold more mods. You literally skipped the new and better gun parts system. this all crates are still worth opening because they give guns to scrap, or sell. They give ammo, and mods. Mods are the new parts system and they work better and allow customization of the guns you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostriktor Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 Mods are the new parts system and they work better oh yes i totally want the childish colors on my weapons in an immersive survival apocalypse game !! reason why im playing Killing Floor atm 7dtd wants to be Killing Floor ? it never will be, performance-wise. just sad, had great hope for this 7dtd. there must be a reason reviews are mostly negative... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Deluxe Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I too miss them. Apparently a lot of people complained about having a tonne of parts... But what do we have now? A tonne of useless weapons that the traitor wont buy... At least with the parts the traitor would buy them! Now they're just collecting dust! Scrap them and make nice things from the ressources. Only reason i miss the parts because you had something to do after arround day 50. Now you have all you want arround day 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrkana Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 oh yes i totally want the childish colors on my weapons in an immersive survival apocalypse game !! reason why im playing Killing Floor atm 7dtd wants to be Killing Floor ? it never will be, performance-wise. just sad, had great hope for this 7dtd. there must be a reason reviews are mostly negative... then dont use the colors I love the colors. They added damage to colors so you arnt penalised for wanting to add a cool color to your weapon. What you see as childish thousnads of others see as a cool feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktoriusiii Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 oh yes i totally want the childish colors on my weapons in an immersive survival apocalypse game !! reason why im playing Killing Floor atm 7dtd wants to be Killing Floor ? it never will be, performance-wise. just sad, had great hope for this 7dtd. there must be a reason reviews are mostly negative... colors arefine. what isn't is, that they givedmg boosts. Makes 0 sense. Why not gunparts+mods? It was an awesome system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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