[10 years of 7 days to die]

A42 confirmed!

[What players want vs what TFP wants]

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I often read in the forums though so I think I have a good impression of what the players want. I also believe that most of the things we want would be good for the game.

 

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I don't act like I speak for all players.

 

Might want to stop using the royal "we" when speaking, then.

[Alpha 21 Discussion Overflow]

17 hours ago, bachgaman said:

This is what I'm talking about. At the moment, the game forces you to do this. The most efficient way to play is build your base next to a trader and grind the same high level POI 200m away. Again and again. The same POI. From day to day. No point in world generation and explore world

 

3 hours ago, bachgaman said:

Played many worlds without a trader. Including with 25% loot and 50% experience with increased zombie speed and strength. Most of the time I play on very difficult settings

 

Didn't see any complaints. Saw highlighting obvious flaws

 

So you know the game doesn't force you to play with traders at all and you've gone back and played without them many times, again and again.

 

First time for everything I guess. Time to find out how to mute someone on this forum.

[Alpha 21 Discussion Overflow]

8 hours ago, bachgaman said:

This is what I'm talking about. At the moment, the game forces you to do this. The most efficient way to play is build your base next to a trader and grind the same high level POI 200m away. Again and again.

 

Good Lord. Here's how to fix it: play survivalist, dead is dead, no trader.

 

No. Trader.

 

Your complaint is "once you've got some skill the game's easy and boring if you play it on easy and boring settings, and it forces you to play on easy and boring settings because that's easiest".

 

If the wall gets bloody and ugly after you run headlong into it enough times, I'm not sure the right response is to demand the wall be made self cleaning. Can I suggest opening the door, it's right there, and walking through?

 

Stop playing on easy settings. The game gets more interesting.

[It's all gone wrong, terribly wrong.]

On 5/16/2022 at 1:38 AM, Novamourne said:

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There's a lot there.

 

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Quests - 
Way too lucrative and way too often. 

 

Agreed, but—and I saw your objection to the "just don't use it" response, I'm disagreeing with that here—I don't really see a problem with TFP trying to keep the looter-shooter-errand-boy players happy,  anybody wants a beatemup, we gotcher beatemup right here!,  so long as they also keep no-trader personal-competence-and-thinking-required play within reach, you know, the survival and crafting part.

 

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Game Stage - 
Game stage scaled the world to you. […]Game Stage should not make sure you are powerful enough to do anything you want, but that's what it does.

 

I absolutely love games where "run for your life!" starts out among your best options. Games that carefully ensure every offered fight is winnable are difficult for me to talk about politely. So yeah.

 

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Skills - 

I thought skills would be a lot different than they are. I thought everyone would be able to progress through everything and I thought it was going to serve as more of a "mastery" of tasks and actions.

 

Full-on ewwww to the game you thought you were getting.  I mean, sure, for easy mode, whatever. Rush the tech tree and regard everything before everybody has all the toys as tutorial. That couldn't possibly be more boring in a game this good. Cooperating teams of specialists *rock*, and you want to make that a niche little sideshow. I want to make that the only way to thrive on a hard-mode server, and it should be (barely) possible to survive if you're smart about your perk choices solo.

 

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Screamers & Heat Map -
Nothing killed this games crafting and production aspect faster and more efficiently than this atrocious mechanic.

 

What? Dig a shaft 35m straight down and put your workshop down there, if you can't do that by day 3 you're doing something very wrong. A one-block shaft is perfectly navigable once you figure out how to wriggle free if you get stuck, you only need ladders every other block. I think activity should be *more* dangerous, to the point where if it's just you mining and at all exposed you'd damned well better have set traps at the higher difficulties, and if you make big bangy noise in an un-cleared town, oh, baby, you're going to die.

 

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Gun parts created a parity between crafting and looting which doesn't exist at all in today's version of the game.

Not sure it was the gun parts that did it, but I hear you. Way I see it, as the difficulty cranks up you should be forced to rely more and more on personal skill and perception and strategy, less and less on tech-tree progression and looting.

 

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"Smart" & "Gimmick" zombies -
You are losing the arms race and have been since you decided to enter it. Please give up. Players will always outsmart your AI.[…]Gore blocks were an infinitely better zombie threat than anything you've put in the game thus far and you removed them without trying to iterate on it at all. Get rid of the stupid demo zombies. Bring back gore blocks.

 

Sort-of agreed there except the demo zombies are a stroke of genius. In my dream version of this game playing on  harder settings should make it feel increasingly like Devil Daggers, it's not a question of whether, only when, and personal skill is by far the most important factor.

 

I think they're still iterating on the pathing, not sure it's possible to build the game they really want to build using any current game engine so it's always going to be the best compromise they can find. World War Z style gore piles would be terrifying. I'd *love* to see that mechanic boosted in 7dtd. As it is it's just a hint, it seems almost unintentional.

 

 

 

 

 

[Farming not very viable even with living off the land 3.]

I don't get it.

 

If you want a sustainable farm, drop a perk point into LotL and build/maintain a substantial reserve for when your character's rookie mistakes cost you, which they will. If you get lucky your character won't screw up too much before you've got a reserve, but nobody's *always* lucky except little boys in their dreams. If you want a steady, reliably profitable farm, turn pro: drop seven perk points into Fort5/LotL3, that's like four-five-six days of leveling, plus four of those points amortize into other good things.

 

Low-skilled farming has risks now but even a 1PP spend is enough to make it sustainable in SP if you're smart about it.

 

And you don't have to farm at all if you're playing mmo-style with npc quests and all that hoohah.

[Is Stone Axe OP?]

I don't get it. A Q6 stone axe modded to the gills is basically magic, putting it up against a Q3 iron pickaxe is basically putting Sting up against some random Orc captain's sword: in skilled hands, it's not going to be a contest, and the Orc's gonna lose.

 

[what's your pet peeve about the game?]

23 hours ago, Roland said:

Can’t happen. Historically, the even numbered alphas have always been more popular than the odd numbered Alphas. 
 

There’s really nothing A17 could’ve done....

Am I the *only* player still pining for the brutal desperation that was A17.0?

[New forum look & feel poll]

Things I miss from the old forums:  backlinks to a quoted-post, and "first unread" in the topic I'm reading. I know you can get there from topic indexes, I'm saying the nav-within-topic features are missing. And I don't see how to go back to the post someone quoted at all, I can hide the quoted bit, there's a link to the poster's profile page, but if there's a link to the actual quoted post my pixel-fu is too weak.  

 

[New forum look & feel poll]

Only thing I'm sure could be better is it needs higher-contrast text still, a darker background for the dark theme might do it.  Get somebody with old eyes in there, low-contrast text is great for advertising copy and other novelty/attention-seeking contexts but it sucks for older eyes.

Haven't found how to lose the avatar pics, when thread-reading, they suck up so much space you can't see more than three posts in a conversation.  ffs I could see more on a 1960's 3270 with a 24×80 text screen. If you really can't turn them off I'd say that's going to be my vote for worst feature ever.

Everything else looks like it's there just a matter of getting used to the new setup.  I like the expando toggles, could wish for checkbox selections for selective "mark read" ops and such but I know that's soaring pretty high up there in first-world-problems territory.