Redarmy45
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i did a full game reinstall,deleted the 7days to die mod launcher,reiunstalled mod launcher,checked modlets listed and they are all up to date. pressed play in mod launcher it Started building,but when i get into game and load i get the same red error codes and game hangs. with DMT tool, iv directed it to a mods folder outside of the 7days to die directory as it says,i press mod folder and it indeed shows my mod folders(mods mentioned above) but the mods dont show up in the DMT panel,if i click refresh mods,still nothing... if i click "build" i get this.. so it builds ok,just doesnt detect my mods. I cant think of anything else i could be doing wrong EDIT The DMT is actually out of date but i was sure i opened it directly from spherii folder from spereii core. Could you link the DMT download because DLing it from the main page says its out of ate when i boot it p. Still though the mod launcher should be working and it isnt loading my game
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Xyth i may be doing something wrong here but i cannot get the mod to run i used the launcher,checked manage modlets and Sphereii core Shpereii dialogue window NPC Pack factions NPC pack humans and creature pack humans are all there,hit play and it starts to load. ^ This is the message it gives. Once loaded into the game upon loading a new game i get red error codes in the console and the game hangs. Also i somehow managed to load it first time around but all NPCs were hostile to me and they all had animation bug of their head cocked to one side over their shoulder,really odd. downloaded DMT tool but its outdated and upon trying to update that tool when it suggests get errors and cannot DL it so i cannot test with DMT. Launcher loaded the mod fine last week with the exception of hire bug.
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Hey Xyth when recruiting NPCs,after loading into the game again they are no longer hired and must be hired again. Just got back into the game and using the mod,everything else seems ok. on stable SP ,and all dependencies are up to date
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Hello Xyth! Hope you kept well recently. I just saw Alpha 19 dropped,been away for months. Looking forward to DMT NPCs again.
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Sounds fantastic.Looking forward to Alpha 19 and the future of the mod.The Fun pimps had said they are never going to impliment NPCs for the players party,this mod is what brought me to 7 days to die and what will keep me here.The only time i ever played a SP game without NPCs was with Solid/Naked and venom snake,the way it had to be.
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Noticed it too. @sphereii Do all NPCs your hired who are far from you(after you die IE) get cached? I want to simply "cheat" my NPCs in,its how i play,having a limited number following me at any game,but i respawn them when they,or in the case of them not teleporting then,when i die.I would hate to be spawning in multiple entities throughout a campaign and it causing save bloat or dips in performance
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Xyth i was making a few tweaks to my game,and changed a few values in the games vanilla spawning xml. During testing i bumped up the numbers....alot,from 3 ish to 30 per biome.. I walked into town and saw 4 whisper NPCs having a shootout with other NPCs,it was glorious hahaha. I then realised why when looking at entity groups.xml,you used "Zombieboe" as a spawn for them,i guess Mr.Boe spawns in all biomes and thats why. Anyway in the vanilla xml i noticed a terrotirial range value but i dont see one in your NPC pack xml files.What would be the way i could reduce my friendly NPCs territorial range?I want to increase zombie spawns in general to probably 10,but i am thinking that its going to cause recruited NPCs to go on the warpath and il take years just to walk with them through a region because they will constantly be aggroing with so many threats around. I have already lowered NPC sight range from 70 to 25 but it doesnt affect their territorial ability to sense enemies.
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Yeah i really miss this feature too,it seemed to work well im also not sure why it was taken out.
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Thanks Xyth I lowered it to 25,NPCs still do the terratorial behaviour outdoors but are no longer running around POI's like its a fun house,and thus sticking close to me,allowing for a "room by room" clearing experience.Much better to be honest. I notice an ill effect on the the terratorial and wander behaviour when they are using both these tasks in conjunction with each other... By telling the NPC to "wander around here",and then them engaging zombies in the area,the wander around here task restarts,but this time they are wandering from the new position(where they killed a zombie) and this is the main cause of NPCs who wander getting lost by venturing too far out from the original point you told them to wander from(IE around your base) Perhaps in future you might consider letting NPCs remember the block they started the task from and have them return to it to resume wander after they kill an enemy.
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I was going to do that yeah.Just to make sure im doing it correctly.. Its in NPC pack human folder/entity classes...and there are two instances of "sight range" default 70,that i should reduce ,is that correct? I had assumed before i would have to edit each NPC individually
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Thanks for all the hard work guys. @Darkstardragon @xyth NPC Ghost seemingly wasnt included in bandits/green/red or blue team.So she wasnt ale to play friendly with any NPCs you hired. Im not sure if its the new terratorial behaviour causing this but what im noticing alot is NPCs notice enemies in POIs long before they should,and because the doors(and even sometimes when there is a way in) are shut ,their pathing causes them to "moonwalk"backwards at full speed,they will then teleport to player,rinse and repeat.The constant teleporting back to player combined with them neing able to push the player often leads to tight spot situations,falling from heights,into traps etc if you have 3 or more NPCs together. This includes melee NPCs and from what i understand they should be like lock on missiles and go directly for a zombie. I just want to confirm is it common to see NPCs looking like they are trying to engage zombies but getting pulled back by the force of a black hole.
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Really enjoying the whispers NPCs... i was walking through a corn field,borrowing some crops...i see abt 50 meters away a figure moving towards me AK47 silohette from the look of the barrel...im peekin through each stem of corn saying to myself "what the (I'm a potty mouth) is that?" I hadent seen an NPC utilize this seek player function from out of LOS before,i figured the dude was hostile but i was to mesmorized to raise my rifle...then he fired,ruining the one good stem i was about to pluck..i knew then i had to end him 😂 Nice job with those guys Xyth,really enjoying that AI,mixes things up. A few notes i gathered. 1)NPCs you hired do not act teratorial/hostile to whispers until hey openly attack the player. 2)Damage they do is a little low to worry the player much 3)NPC bug out stuck in falling animation if exposed to water while falling(falling into water from a height) Possible fix would be to reset all NPCs animations when player interacts with them maybe? 4)Horde night zombies largely ignore NPCs,r completely unless NPC attacks one. 5)Similar to above,with so many zombies in close proximity,NPCs have real trouble switching targets to get closest to enemy. With the issues of 4 and 5 together i witnessed on horde night zombies break through my walls,ignore NPCs who were closest,and NPCs ignored them(probably focused on enemy outside walls) and i got mauled by 3 zombie dogs while NPCs stood motionless. The horde number i reduced from 64 to 32 to ease possible issues like that but still the same. Also there is a perk in game that adds buffs to allies(human players),would you ever be able to get it to buff up NPCs too? Having a blast so far
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The update definetly makes AI more effective.So far the results of the changes,the most notable one is that NPCs are changing targets more frequently which is giving them the ability to basically fire more often,they are much more aggressive in this regard and therefor more effective. I forget to mention before that im getting what seems like script lag when NPCs with shotguns hit an enemy,micro stutter will occur for a good 2 seconds at times.This may be vanilla 7DTD issue im not sure
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Xyth would you consider adding a stay here/gaurd command?In which the NPC(should idealy be a ranged NPC) would stay rooted to a spot but still auto target enemies.Because it could allivieate some issues with ranged NPCs who try to navigate or path to an enemy and there is no valid path...for example i have NPCs in my base on horde night... I have a house with windows all around,i built a rooftop perch with a ladder,NPCs will always climb up and "hide" there.Or walk (moonwalk) to the rear or corner of the house,rendering them innefective .If they could hold a spot and just shoot,it would make there defensive abilities really good and avoid odd pathing issues at critical times. This is really good for NPCs with any weapon other than a shotgun as the weapon range causes them to path to all sorts of areas "away" from a threat,whereas if they just stood their position they would have found a target.
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Didnt know that, cheers mate.
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Ah ok that helps.I had noticed that shotgun NPCs were proving to be the most reliable recruits at putting down zombies,i guess its because they were closing the range,then attacking.This led to these NPCs never teleporting all over the place like SMG/Rifle NPCs.
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Xyth are you aware of the NPC walk changes mid game? Not sure if you noticed it,but in so far as what i tested,NPCs who attack other NPCs(melee range) sometimes inherit a zombie walk animation/standing still flinching animation. reloading the save doesn't appear to fix it either. Also ranged NPCs seemingly back up very aggresively sometimes away from Z's,the end result is an endless loop of teleporting NPCs back to player position.Are they supposed to put distance between themeselves and Z's? Because i have noticed they also sometimes run to within a few meters of a Z and shoot.This causes all sorts of issues when entering a POI and NPCs wont assist the player. Lastly,is there any chance you could consider adding back in NPC map markers,or tell me where to edit the xml file to do so?It just makes testing alot easier.
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As an after thought of issue i posted above regarding trees. I had chopped down hundreds o trees and never had the issue of an NPC dying,but recently i read a perk book called Wasteland Treasures Vol. 1. Which gives the player a small chance to get honey when he knocks down a tree... is it possibly connected? Because i have 2 jars of honey in my inventory and two dead NPC's. Man i should have been a detective lol EDIT : Also after a reload there are two yellow loot bags dropped by one NPC.One contaned nothing,one had food. There should only be one loot bag if im correct
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Will try that soon Xyth i can confirm that NPCs have a chance to die when you are chopping trees down and they are actively following you. I can reproduce it. Grab a fire axe,tell an NPC to follow,proceed to chop tree down,NPC just dies. Ofcourse not all the time,but twice today it happened as a tree fell. The NPC was the guy with the gas mask,and military fatigues.Sorry the name eludes me.Both melee and ranged version of that NPC died today.Its possibly all NPCs il keep looking.Strange thing. Physics related? As soon as i chop and tree drops move to another tree,possible the NPC is taking damage from the tree falling?I never heard of that in 7days.
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I have no other modlets running.The biome was a pine forest one,the temp was not a problem.It IS on the edge of a snow biome but the NPC wasnt really near to it.All i can think of is when i chopped a tree down he has standing behind me and died.Not much to go on i know... You mentioned the home block to tweak wander distance,where exactly is it in the core folder?Or is it in the NPC'sf older and needing to be tweaked per NPC?
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Oh you were correct,NPC maslow was infact set to true. I guess my NPC died of hunger.
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Hahaha ye fair enough.It actually gave me a good laugh.I had a ctr wood plate(upright) at the top of the stairs so i could shoot over it with a shotty at Zs walking up the stairs,a bannister to my right hand side,..it was at that point my NPC stands behind me sandwiching me and i can no longer back up...im totally trapped with no movement and Zs barrelling up the stairs at me while im firing furiously both terrified and laughing my ass off at the same time. The NPC "Raider moto" (red racer suit guy n hemet) also has the T pose issue when approached. I also had an NPC just keel over and die,not from teleporting or anything,i was just chopping tress and i turned around and his yellow loot bag had dropped.No Zs or anything hostile,no mines.Had not seen it happen before. I didnt edit any xml file,is maslow on by default?As in do these guys need water and food? Also it might be a good idea if NPC wander range is reduced by half.I have had two NPCs dissapear(found one a few days later). But approaching horde night and trying to round them up its a Pain in the ass,or find them in general to go looting.You never know if they maybe already died,and with no map markers it makes the whole process unecasserily long and tedious.I did mention it to Sphereii already but not sure if he edited it a little already.
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Just had my 2nd ever horde night...Camped up on 2nd floor of a reinforced house,nothing fancy...but built shoot out window areas,the NPCs were giving it socks to the Z's. Saved my bacon...64 Z setting tho probably only half showed up cuz of game stage. Great fun though. I noticed with MP watching a few vids that players phase through each other,would that ever be possible for NPCs to not contact with player?At times with tight spaces it can be a death sentence. Also pro tip: dont bring melee NPCs to a mine field lol
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Thanks for the info Mr.Devolver, i got into game and everything worked as before,only exception is that i had to rehire all my NPCs. Xyth,the NPC actually isnt called "pest" he just has the same character model as pest from the 1st iteration of the mod(gas mask and hoodie/short guy). I think his name was raider something,or slugger something. Maybe raider scum. He is friendly,and hireable.If i catch him again il let ya know tthe name.
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Thanks for the updates Xyth, I had two questions. 1) I dont use creature pack mechs,only using the human NPCs,so with the new update there are two additional folders.. "1-NPC pack mechs" and "2-NPC pack factions". Do i need the 1-NPC pack mechs if i dont use your modlet which adds mechs to the game? Reading the description i cant tell if this is a total new mech NPC type standalone from the CP mechs or not. and 2) When updating the mod,do currently hired NPCs in my current save game inherit the changes or should i typically dismiss and rehire them/find new ones,for the updates to apply and avoid issues? Also found an issue with "NPC Pest" (all weapon versions) this NPCs when approached T-poses into the ground.
