[Do you build realistically, or do you cheese game mechanics?]

I would not use floating bases. That is where i draw the line.

But i've might have been guilty of using arrowslits for cheap base entries, once or thrice upon a time.  Instead of jump to reach ladder, or other

methods.

 

Using zombie pathing i don't see as cheese, nor unrealistic.  It's a concept used for hilltop castles since ancient times , and for a good strategic reason.

I don't necessarely think it is good for a game , since it is predictable and easy to work with. But , it is what The Fun Pimps wants us to have, which is

why i don't see it as cheese, but rather playing the game as intended.

 

And.. we had effective ways to deal with zombies before A17 too. Using what we are given to our advantage is nothing new. In my opinion, it boils down to

how a player plays the game. Some will play it as fighting/ zombie killing game, others will play it more as a survival/RP type of game. And probaly a lot of mixes

inbetween those two. 

[Is ignoring game content the only option?]

19 hours ago, Slingblade2040 said:

There has to be a better solution than being told play 40 minutes and ignore most of the game content otherwise you make crafting gear, weapons and tools pointless.

 

There is.

Uninstall and play something else. And give feedback on why, as you already have.

 

On the trader, i share your opinion.

On mods, no, i am not going to touch them until The Fun Pimps decide to add in steam workshop support , even though i belive some of the mods

are quite good, but that's another topic entirely. But that is for you to decide, not me.

 

Games are entertainment, and if they are not entertaining, no reason to play them.

 

I call it burned out when every little detail feels like a reason to not play a game. And instead of wasting time thinking about negative aspects, i suggest uninstall.

Can always reinstall if needed.

[Do zombies poop?]

On 11/10/2022 at 8:23 AM, ElCabong said:

They used to. Where did the turds come from back in the day we made fertalizer? 

 

From special turd crafting stations , aka toilets.

Still use them for that purpose in Terraria.

[How many hours have you played in 7d2d?]

2950,9 hours according to steam.

0 in A20.

[Trader Bob is sitting on the floor. I can only see the top of his head]

It is actually resource saving camouflaged as a graphical bug.

[One town, no traders]

5 hours ago, Maharin said:

Could we please have an addition option during RWG that allows for a single town instead of "few"?  And could we also get a simple on/off option for traders?  Choosing no towns removes traders but it would be nice to have the option of having one (or more) towns without traders if we wanted.  No rush, by release would be fine. 

 

EDIT:  Or just have the single town option have no traders... whatever is easier.  I currently end up going with no towns or going into the POI listing and remove trader entries.

 

I'd like to see that too. It's one of the main reasons i liked Nitrogen since it had those options.

If they implement them however, it's probaly better suited for something to go into an "advanced map gen options" , since more and more of the game seem to

resolve around the trader and looting.

 

Playing with no trader and almost no POI's is much more immersive , at least from a survival point of view. It's a LOT slower progress, and its probaly not for everyone.

With no trader, what you can loot suddenly become more valuable.

With very few POI's, the ones you can find also become much more valuable , and so it becomes more motivating to go searching for them.

And like you said, with few places to loot, crafting becomes much more necessary , and making the best with the little we have.

 

It is slow though, and may need some modding to deal with progress trees , since some stuff is locked behind books and trader.

As in, if i play with no trader and few or no POI's , do i really want all that fancy stuff anyway? Possibly for the feeling of progress.

[This is the kind of point of view that makes me go facepalm about some reviewers.]

1 hour ago, pApA^LeGBa said:

We will see about bandits, those might be a good way to keep us busy. If they are just out in the world and part of quests, i don´t think they will be a great challenge. Really hope they are going to raid our bases. Random, without a schedule like the blood moon ofc.

 Could be intresting if the bandits were more intrested in raiding our houses, ie, chests filled with goodies would be their primary goal, not the player.  As in,  player placed chests adjust the value of a "gold map" depending on how filled they are. A high value gold map would attract bandits , but have no effect on zombies.

[I am naming my trader Joel's: Joel, William, Billy, PianoMan, what's next? I have five]

Johnny.

[I don't like this game any more and I don't know why]

12 hours ago, geengaween said:

I used to love this game but some time around A18 it lost its magic and I haven't been able to properly play it since. But I don't really know why I don't like it any more, all the ingredients I love are there - proc gen worlds, scavenging, exploring derelict buildings, thirst/hunger, zombies. I've always liked Zomboid and I've played both games for years, I've got like 300 hours clocked in both of them.

 

But I can't figure out what it is about Zomboid I like, and what it is about 7DTD I don't like. Anyone feel the same way, or have any insights?

 

I call it burned out. When every tiny little flaw seems like a terrible error with the game. Best cure, if there is a cure, is to play something else.

Games are entertainment, and if they are not entertaining, no need to play it. I wouldn't watch a bad TV show (unless married) or eat food i don't like.

 

[Zombietronics: Digital Circuits Using Zombies]

Next challenge, make a 7 segment display. Yes, i tried, and failed. That is, i made the display, but not a working control circuit. And no, i did not video it.

[———AIRPORT———]

12 hours ago, saoron666 said:

Why there isn’t any airport in the game?

a giant airport with luggage, crashed planes, towers, lobbies, herds of zombies, the runways, cop cars, fire trucks , blinking red lights inside the airport..

could  actually take off or land your helicopter there as well… can be on separate biom  further from the city…

T5 could’ve been there instead of same buildings…  

 

you have everything in an airport, restaurants, shops, generators  etc… 

 

it can be really interesting and something new! 
but has to be big, eerie, not a walk in the park! 

Make one.

[Please stop trying to tell us how to play]

I agree with the OP on the topic of moving on to the rest of the game. Fix gamebreaking bugs, and then move on to the bandits and story.

With those done, then it may be time to optimize and tidy up what they consider exploits of certain building blocks.

Hopefully it is easier to balance stuff once they see the full picture.

[We need night loot bonus]

Voted no. By looting both day and night the reward itself is more loot and a better chance to get better loot.

Since it also is likely to include a bit of fighting , your gamestage and therefore the chance of getting better loot automaticly increases more,

as opposed to beeing somewhat idle during night.

[STILL can't release A20 or even give an ETA?]

To be one step ahead of the competition, i've decided i start waiting for A21 instead of A20.

[Zombies is About Hordes and Numbers]

On 11/10/2021 at 10:09 PM, saoron666 said:

I think after playing the game for over 1200hrs with max difficulty i still find it very easy from start to late in the game..

 

this game needs HORDES of zombies! you need numbers of them walking and attacking, surrounding you, getting you cornered!

 

so you cant run by them! if they surround you, you are done!

 

imagine a horde of zombies on sprint mode !!!! now we talking survival skills and that run and gun is worth leveling,...

 

we need to maximize the number of random zombies on the game.

 

Been there, done that.  Base defence was like, left-click 8 times, then hit r. Rince and repeat until lag and zombies was gone.

Survival skills, not really. In my opinion, survival actually is to fight as little as possible , or find methods that put you, the player, at as little risk

as possible. In other words, kinda like min/maxing.

 

Fighting skills, maybe. I'm not denying it gives a certain thrill to run around on the ground at horde night, at least the first times one do it, and most

at the start of the bloodmoon. It's quite fun, but i am not considering it "survival". Just fun.

 

Even if this game become super-optimized to support massive hordes, players will adept their fighting style to match the horde sizes. Explosives can be

quite useful for large zombie gatherings.

 

It's quite some time ago i had fun with those massive hordes. It was in multiplayer too. And, it was where i first learned how to run and club zombies.
And, yes. That image just shows a roaming horde... not bloodmoon horde. Hiding image behind spoiler tag to not steal this thread entirely.

Spoiler

 

[Solar Bank: is it just for the silence?]

Silence is golden.

 

Some people, like myself, don't like noisy generators , and if it wasn't for my "no-trader" playstyle, i'd use solar , at least for everyday use.

Maybe switch to generator for horde nights.

 

edit: Also, once setup, solar is also "Setup and forget".  No more worries about fuel.

[Freezing and Sweltering effects are too forgiving]

Perhaps it could be tied to the difficulty setting instead of a slider.

But a slider or toggle (normal/survival) could do the trick too i guess , as well as beeing more userfriendly. Userfriendly as in , some players want ultrahard zombie fighting, but not wanting to deal with too bad weather affects.  Or vice versa, or both.

[We shouldn't be able to pick up Vehicles]

A somewhat related video... About horses, not cars. But i think it explains the topic fairly well.

edit: Not my video.

 

 

[your choice pistol 9mm: 13 rounds 40 damage or 15 rounds 38 damage]

On 8/15/2021 at 4:20 AM, ElCabong said:

Which one?

15 rounds.

No such issue as too much ammo, but a ton of issues with too little.

 

[We shouldn't be able to pick up Vehicles]

We can carry a vehicle, and the vehicle can carry us. It's fair and square. The vehicle, that is.

[It would be nice.]

On 7/6/2021 at 5:59 PM, erik3227 said:

It would be nice if you could kick with foot.

 

Nice is not the word i'd use to describe these two actions.

Useful perhaps, but not nice.

[I finally found use for trader.]

IMO, fully legit.

Not very realistic, and don't make sense, but that's in perfect line with lots of other stuff in the game. So, legit.

[My first level 3 mission is to the Bear Den]

What is so special about the bear den?

[What would we like to see in the game?]

A multi-functional lawn mower. For cutting grass and zombie hair.

[What is your most memorable moment in 7 days to die?]

Alpha 10.4.

Pretty new to the game, 2-3 hours played. Knew next to nothing and had dug a small hole to settle in. Of course, i'd no idea what

that nose icon meant, but i knew i was detected. So i panicked, and dug further down, and so did the dogs and zombies. Filled in

with dirt above. I did survive, but skill had little to do with it.