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  1. The team meeting finished up this morning and the decision was made to not try and crunch and force the release this weekend. The new goal is the first part of December since we have the Thanksgiving holiday taking out a significant portion of the team for the following weekend. On a side note, I'm selling pitchforks and torches on the cheap. Message me privately for a good deal.
    16 points
  2. Thanks to @Khalagar we have 4 new reaction emojis for the forum. Oh...I guess thanks to Prime as well....haha These emojis are also available in the emoji interface when posting. Simply click on the emoji icon in your tool bar then select categories and select Prime. The image above was added to my post as an emoji.
    15 points
  3. Even if they were all fixed/done today, we have several days of testing planned afterwards. We are not just tossing it out the door when people say their stuff is ready. Proof is in the testing.
    14 points
  4. If anyone is unironically crying/@%$#in because they have to wait 2-3 more days to play they seriously need to go outside and touch some grass.
    14 points
  5. 1) This is a pure advertisement event. This is not about giving streamers a present or thank them. 2) Many non-die-hard 7D2D streamers will be streaming 7D2D exactly because they get it earlier and expect more curious viewers from this exclusivity. Exclusivity is a cheap method to get those streamers (and particularily their viewers) These are the reasons. Unless someone finds a serious counter argument to that he might as well shout at windmills. It is like complaining that your older brother can stay up longer than you when you were 7 years old.
    14 points
  6. doesn't matter how big it is if I can get a quest for it and clear it in 10 seconds
    13 points
  7. I hope with workshop support we can add individual POI's that are rated by the community. The POI packs we have now are mostly great but there are few stinkers in the mix.
    13 points
  8. uh..2.5 days later. weekend. (Thats 2.5 days) Prejudice against streamers is your real problem. You have falsely set up the scenario that they don't love the game as much as you do and only play it to get views. Maybe they love the game as much as you do AND play it for views as well. You have no basis for the foundation upon which all your anger and seething jealousy and hatred sits. It is all just a constructed assumption. You don't know these people individually but you assume knowledge of their whole "species" and hate them. Classic prejudice. Clear that gunk out of your heart and your arguments will hold more credence. This is the sixth time we have done this event and your same prediction has been made five times previously by streamer haters of the past and five times proven false. Every time we have done this there have been thousands of happy viewers and lots of fun happening in nations all over the world by those who enjoy the whole streamer scene. It is not just the streamers themselves enjoying the game. Their audiences enjoy it as well. The developers enjoy it immensely. They watch and they comment in their dev chat and often what they see sparks conversations that bear fruit for everyone during experimental. Sorry, but five times this event has had proven positive results-- so much so that the owners insist on it continuing on. It is a fantastic soft launch of the game that has consistently netted real beneficial results for the release candidate prepped for the Monday launch for everyone. It is also a ton of fun for those who choose to participate as viewers. I get that you don't count yourself as a viewer and I understand completely. I don't watch professional sports, myself. But it is your choice to abstain. But you should know that the number of people who enjoy watching streams has been growing and not shrinking. And now, thanks to TFP, you don't even have to just watch and chat. You can participate and several of the streamers in our list plan to use Twitch Integration for the weekend event. So fun! Look, you erroneously thought it was a whole week and it isn't. It's just 2.5 days. You erroneously think that streamers aren't true gamers who don't really love gaming. You erroneously think that streaming is some small fringe fraction of the playerbase. You erroneously think that early access which we all paid for is somehow being suspending during that weekend. If you will allow yourself to give up these notions you will feel much better.
    13 points
  9. There are currently 10 high MFs. Looks like Zack fixed the tracker last week.
    12 points
  10. There is plenty of crunching going on. I logged 73 hours last week (I track my hours every day), which may be the most in a week of any game I've ever worked on. I don't mind. I love this game. Rest will come later.
    12 points
  11. MFW people won't stop posting wall of texts talking about traders despite it already being said several times traders are in the process of being reworked in A20 and with future changes coming
    12 points
  12. The english part is debatable. Have you HEARD me try to speak???
    12 points
  13. *Crosses Khalagar off the list of potential babysitters...
    11 points
  14. It always comes back to the fact that min/maxing the game and focusing completely on efficiency ruins replay value of the game because for min/maxers there is simply only one conceivable way to play the game-- the single most efficient way. The irony of the min/maxer argument is that no game can be designed to have multiple absolutely perfectly balanced efficiency pathways. One method or strategy will always slightly edge out the rest and so that will become the new one and only way min/maxers can play without "lying to themselves and deceiving themselves" about how to play the game. Thus the only way min/maxers can get much replay value of the game is to convince the developers to change the balance so that they have another new brief puzzle to solve. Three weeks after a new update the new most efficient strategy emerges and once again the game has no replay value for them. We have seen it time and again over the years as those who care only for efficiency complain that they are "forced" to do X by the developers. Sometimes X was upgrading blocks, sometimes spam crafting, sometimes killing zombies, sometimes spam questing, ...one time for a couple of weeks it was chopping down grass thanks to a bug. I'm glad that I enjoy playing the game at a variety of settings and without regard to efficiency. The developers have designed the game to be replayable through conscious player choice --sometimes by changing settings, sometimes by choosing self-limits, and sometimes by choosing challenges and goals. When you don't care whether the way you are playing is the one solution to the efficiency puzzle you can suddenly do whatever you want. And the great thing is that I'm just having fun and it isn't that I have to self-deceive at all. I just plainly don't care whether the choice I want to make is or is not the most efficient. The min/maxer can't comprehend that I simply don't think about it. So, @bachgaman, there has been another balancing pass to traders for pricing of goods, types of goods sold, and rewards for quests for A20. There has also been a pretty significant change to loot in general. It might be enough of a change to create a new puzzle for you to solve. I hope so, since I want everyone to be able to have some fun with the game.
    11 points
  15. My wife and I have 5k followers on Pornhub. We are willing to stream 7 days to die Alpha 20 to bring in followers from other sites you aren't getting people from.
    11 points
  16. Criticizing what others do on their free time is what some people like to do on their free time. We shouldn't judge.
    11 points
  17. Fine after 8 years I'll say 7 days to die's random world generator can be called accurate
    10 points
  18. Yeah, but will you be able to buy it? Sure, in 2029!
    10 points
  19. 10 points
  20. Man, A20 cant come soon enough so I can stop checking in on this trainwreck of a thread
    9 points
  21. The zombies just called for a meeting. They don't feel they are properly balanced against the player's skill trees. They are calling for teleportation and time travel, so they can go back and kill you as a child.
    9 points
  22. I play A20 stealthily with knife and bow. In week 1 I found the compound crossbow book and scrounged enough steel together to make a QL 3 one. Got a lucky roll on it, too, so I'm Murdering All The Things. Still gotta carry something with more sustained DPS. Whatever I find. Currently a pipe machinegun. End of week 2 I have like 8 stacks of 7.62 ammo and it's only piling up. If this was a job I'd pick something with optimised POI clear times like fortitude or strength. I don't care, though. I play what's fun and can highly recommend doing that. =P
    9 points
  23. I'm a solo player, but as I have 8000 split personalities, I am (we are) MUCH more important than everyone else and deserve many more replies from moderators and devs! Of course, I (we) have only paid for one game, this would be much more than 5000 people who just pirated the game. Some countries pirate MUCH MUCH more than others.. So, my list of demands (for now): -Vending machines that sell Coke Classic for 10 dukes (Giving you max stats for three days). -A full sized airport with a 747 that I can fly, after fixing it completely with some duck tape (I like challenges) . -Ziplines. Ziplines everywhere!
    9 points
  24. I work 2 jobs, 9-5, 7 days a week (for one) and 5 days a week for about an hour (for the other). And i'm in the streamer list. I also know several in that list who ALSO work 9-5. So.... might wanna calm that down a bit there bud. EDIT: Oh, and I also work on DF, and Romero Mod, and making sure my modlets are up to date, along with making videos so I could hit that 5k sub count... and voluteer at a cat rescue...
    9 points
  25. @bachgaman and @meganoth I have a little friend here who wants to tell you something:
    9 points
  26. It sounds like the emotional core of your argument is about feeling disrespected, jealous, and entitled to having the experimental update they are choosing to artificially allow access to. I get that that it sucks, I really do. There's nothing wrong about being passionate about wanting something you enjoy. Sure, the first streamer weekend I thought "Man, this is @%$#ty, let me just play the damn game". In my mind, jealously was about taking, entitlement was about it being owed, and disrespect was about not getting what was deserved due to loyalty. Here's the thing right? To get BEYOND those feelings It requires an emotional reframing for proper understanding and wisdom: Do I want the game to be even more successful? Do I want TFP to keep developing the game? How do I even support development when I bought my copy YEARS ago? How can TFP keep solvency without exposure to new audiences to expand the player base? Can the core 'loyal' audience pay the bills of development alone? Am I willing to delay my gratification so the devs can get their needs met while they work on the game? Am I saying their needs really aren't okay with me? There's no DLC for the game and there's no monthly subscription. My dollar per hour is a little more than pennies at this point. To not express my gratitude for that fact alone is utterly shameless and absurd. I've gifted easily a dozen copies of the game, like I've done with other games where my dollar per hour is fractions on the dollar because I'm the one who owes them. Gotta respect what you put your time into. Streamers, youtubers, and modders all do their part. I never would have found the game had I not seen a stream then watched a lets play and thought with a sense of trepidation "Man, I can't wait to play that".
    9 points
  27. I like seeing complaints about streamers, it means we are close to release!!! Keep it up!!
    9 points
  28. There is no hard number for what must be fixed for experimental. We prioritize them by Highest, High, Medium, Low. Highest and High would be ones we want fixed, but as many Mediums as we can. Highest+High is currently 32.
    9 points
  29. Because it's a tired pointless topic that doesn't go anywhere. Anyone who has ever been on an early access game's forum has seen this topic 100 times before. You're impatient, you think you could run a company better, [company] are incompetent, [company] are lazy, [company] are scammers, etc etc etc. Oh yeah and also you have like 20 million hours clocked in this garbage game made by lazy incompetent scammers. The game is like 30 bucks. It's not AAA price, it's not a subscription, you knew it was unfinished when you bought it. It's the price of 1 and a half jugs of beer, you spend more at the pub on a saturday night buying a round for your mates. At the end of the day TFP are a motley crew of joe shmoes who've formed a games company and happened to have created something really cool and fun that has made them millions. They're not coke snorting Californian yuppies who have a bunch of shareholders breathing down their necks. They're not suddenly going to turn into a AAA company and start crunching overtime and slaving away for 16 hour days just because you are impatient about updates. Their work hours are probably pretty relaxed and they have a good time in their jobs. You're waiting for updates and you'll play it as soon as A20 drops. They've already won. Why would they change this? This is a business model that has worked very well for them whether you like it or not. They're using 7DTD to develop tech that they'll use in their next unannounced games. Their next games will probably make as much if not more sales. They are set for life and riding a train made of pure gold, and I'm happy for them, they deserve it. There is zero reason for them to change anything about their company whatsoever. You angry nerds with 3000 hours in the game complaining and moaning on the internet will do absolutely nothing, they don't even read it, they don't care. I'm going to save this post and copy paste it in response to the next thread that gets created
    8 points
  30. Seriously? Good for you! I hope I’m still gaming at 78. I’m curious as to how many of us 60+ years folks that actually play this game. I’m considering retirement this year which will allow more time for this game….I only have 5000+ hours so far lol. Fabulous relaxing game with unlimited replayability and I haven’t even tried any mods except Compopack. Here’s to the old people🍺🍺🍺
    8 points
  31. I'd also add that this is exactly the example of asymmetrical balanced gameplay. The fun is purposefully found in NOT playing in the most efficient way.
    8 points
  32. If you actually do love it as it is then what is the problem? If you really do have 3000 hours then you can't complain that its been torture. You've obviously gotten your money's worth. Why is the label "done" so important to you if you already love and have played this game the equivalent of 125 full days? That's a little over 4 months of your life of playing 7 Days to Die with no sleep and no breaks. I could see someone who tried it for a few hours and hated it because they couldn't stand the unfinished nature of it being very upset that it hasn't been finished yet and for those 10 guys, my heart really goes out to them and I feel bad that they've had it sitting in their library uninstalled for years just waiting for a finished version that they can bear playing and get their money's worth-- but that's not you obviously. You love it. In fact when school gets out you'll probably play it some more once all your homework is done. Don't stay up too late. It'll make you cranky.
    8 points
  33. So we can look forward to more reports of how big your community is and how you all may be migrating to another game if things don't change the way you want them to after A20 drops? Oooh can't wait... Saying no to THAT game is super easy. Barely an inconvenience.
    8 points
  34. That's great. Tell me the date that you and your 5000 are switching over to Minecraft and I'll mark it down on my calendar... Not if you keep posting about it. How many more times do you plan to announce that it's over and you and all your many peeps are going to go elsewhere? Nobody here is trying to talk you out of it. You could be playing Minecraft right now but for informing us over and over again that you are considering it. So go make it. You have my blessing. Think of me every time you slice up a Creeper without it exploding.
    8 points
  35. MFW half the posts per page are still two people fighting while posting wall of texts so big they take me 15 seconds to scroll through
    8 points
  36. Oxygen not included.
    8 points
  37. I'm fine with how it is for now. Someday we might even make it better to us. You may still hate it. You could go make your own game or a mod. Then you can do it exactly as you like and avoid all those horrible bad decisions we made.
    8 points
  38. -Arch Necromancer Morloc
    8 points
  39. "TV viewer", "sports spectator", "audience", "media consumer" ? 😉 I've been watching action movies all my live but never jumped from 3 story buildings with guns balzing myself. I know, I know, this doesn't look good, I really should don a cape and mask and hit random people I suspect of wrongdoing 😁
    8 points
  40. Sure, somewhere in the multiverse, there is an alternative timeline where ziplines exist... Aaand a user Roland is a regular user who happens to hate ziplines feature from the first day they were implemented, and he decided to complain about it so much in the forum that his account had to be temporarily banned by Super Moderator SnowDog1942...
    8 points
  41. So he's a trooper but the game was never made to be particularly child-friendly. The whole M rating and all, y'know?
    7 points
  42. A cool tweet from Madmole.
    7 points
  43. Fixed several bugs with it. Much cleaner now and light anim only moves 10% of the distance.
    7 points
  44. I'm using a system where a single character generates and through the event system the game decides randomly what they are wearing, their hair style, etc... Even on the laptop with 50 entities I see minimal fps drop. Memory usage is a bit higher of course, but one model using a lot of combinations for looks works well. Mind you, this is recorded on a laptop with no space left enough for even a page file so the video quality and stuttering are related to that. https://youtu.be/_3ohMgrCNHA ...and before everyone jumps in about seeing the items spawn in, that's just a timing issue that can be resolved. This is a proof of concept.
    7 points
  45. We said we were trying to get it out by Halloween. Trying and will be are not the same thing. News would be we have 14 high priority must fix bugs, which will take an unknown amount of time to fix. While those are being fixed, we will also have whatever new high priority bugs are found and then some additional testing to determine if there are any more high priority bugs left.
    7 points
  46. Oh, I'm sure there was a lot more in that discussion, but I only flew over it because I don't give a crap really. I just picked up on that specific part and I think what I said does apply to some degree ;] If not, ignore. The analogy still holds up in general, I'd say.
    7 points
  47. What is brainless is the idea that giving members of the media an inside look is somehow royal treatment. In the 80's and 90's print magazines were given first access to gameplay where they flaunted their subscription hungry news about "behind closed doors" gameplay excursions that nobody else who would be part of the player base ever got to do. Then in the 00's and 10's it was web based outlets. I take it you are equally flummoxed and exasperated when you watch a video or read an article at IGN for any video game they have covered that is not yet released because...."those damn Royals!".... If you can't recognize dispassionately that influencers are a powerful new branch of the media then there is nothing that can be done to help you ever understand. You are blinded by your negative emotions regarding people playing games for an audience to make money and garner fame. Regardless of your short sightedness, TFP has the right long view of the importance of media venues that are offered on platforms like YouTube, Billibong, and Twitch. They are not treating streamers like royalty. They are treating them like the media. They are smart to do so. It is so obviously smart to do so that the only reason someone could miss it and object is if their reason is somehow being overwhelmed by their emotion.
    7 points
  48. Careful with your medical advice there. You don't know where that grass has been! =P
    7 points
  49. A20 will have more zombies in towns/cities and they will respawn faster. spawning.xml can be further changed if you want even more. maxcount can be changed for areas that have POIs with tags you want to increase. <spawn maxcount="5" respawndelay="0.2" time="Day" entitygroup="ZombiesAll" tags="downtown" /> <spawn maxcount="5" respawndelay="0.1" time="Night" entitygroup="ZombiesNight" tags="downtown" /> He did say we would like to release by Halloween. I would like that too, but the game is not ready.
    7 points
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